MODO Hockey 1,011 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) You out there that still believes in this cupcake coach, why is that? Dont come in here blaming it all on goalies eventhough they not been the best. We have had over 10 months to prepare for this, we have had all the time in the ***** world to prepare. And we look like a bunch of lost souls out there. Edited February 16 by MODO Hockey 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MODO Hockey 1,011 Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 Looking back at this post knowing that i would be right really sucks to be fair. Hate is a strong word but i fkn hate Ralph and his fancy cupcake words every post interview.. and this idiot makes 3,4 mill each season. God why am i so pesimistic .. sigh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eleven 3,896 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) I still haven't come to a complete decision on him, but it's not looking good. Edited February 16 by Eleven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sabremike 251 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 If there is a God the Jackets fire Torts and we hire him and kick Ralph upstairs. We desperately need a guy like that who will come in, kick ass, take names and hold people accountable. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brawndo 5,142 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I agree wholeheartedly that Ralph needs to go, that being said. They have had six HCs and four GMs in the past decade, how the hell does anyone expect them to get the next hire right? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nucci 330 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, sabremike said: If there is a God the Jackets fire Torts and we hire him and kick Ralph upstairs. We desperately need a guy like that who will come in, kick ass, take names and hold people accountable. upstairs doing what? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SDS 1,246 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, sabremike said: If there is a God the Jackets fire Torts and we hire him and kick Ralph upstairs. We desperately need a guy like that who will come in, kick ass, take names and hold people accountable. You may need to update your thoughts on John Tortorella, unless you have a time machine and want to hire a coach from 20 years ago. There’s a reason why the “kick ass” coaching philosophy isn’t around anymore in any sport. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zamboni 1,589 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Not there with RK yet. I want to give him this entire season to try and right the ship. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huckleberry 803 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, Zamboni said: Not there with RK yet. I want to give him this entire season to try and right the ship. Same but Gallant is free right now no ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cascade Youth 349 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 The complete lack of competence in the owner’s box means they’ll have to just stumble into hiring the right guy, which happened (eventually) with the Bills. To their credit once it happened on the football side they had the smarts not to screw it up. But they’re basically throwing darts at the wall with absolutely no idea what they should be looking for and a stubborn unwillingness to take advice (and the botched Botterill be-knighting only increased their lack of trust in outsiders). The problem is upstairs. We’re basically hoping for good luck at this point. Which is fine but it’s hardly a strategy. I canceled my CenterIce subscription this morning. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob_sauve28 1,098 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I’m still willing to let this crazy season play out. This is very frustrating but a new coach is no guarantee of anything but more change. We had not practiced much in weeks, no games, not all our players and got tossed in the ring with a red hot Islanders team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pi2000 1,465 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 But Jacky boy is really really good pals with Ralph. 2020-21 East Division Most Liked Coach 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WildCard 2,586 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Ralph needs to go, and we need experience back in charge. A GM and a HC with experience. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nfreeman 2,662 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 53 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said: The complete lack of competence in the owner’s box means they’ll have to just stumble into hiring the right guy, which happened (eventually) with the Bills. To their credit once it happened on the football side they had the smarts not to screw it up. But they’re basically throwing darts at the wall with absolutely no idea what they should be looking for and a stubborn unwillingness to take advice (and the botched Botterill be-knighting only increased their lack of trust in outsiders). The problem is upstairs. We’re basically hoping for good luck at this point. Which is fine but it’s hardly a strategy. I canceled my CenterIce subscription this morning. But both the Murray and Botteril hirings were the result of taking advice from NHL insiders. 1 hour ago, Zamboni said: Not there with RK yet. I want to give him this entire season to try and right the ship. I agree. He's coached 80 games with the Sabres, the first 69 of which were spent trying to make chicken salad out of JB's chicken poop roster, and the most recent 11 of which have been spent trying to get a team's sharpness back after a 10-month layoff plus a 15-day layoff and a virus outbreak -- and he's had bottom-20% goaltending the whole time. I think he's also reasonably well-respected around the NHL, and dumping him at this point would be another log on the fire of TP's reputation for firing people. 51 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: I’m still willing to let this crazy season play out. This is very frustrating but a new coach is no guarantee of anything but more change. We had not practiced much in weeks, no games, not all our players and got tossed in the ring with a red hot Islanders team. Yes indeed -- and they played pretty well in the 1st 2 periods last night before running out of gas in the 3rd. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pimlach 2,353 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) 5 hours ago, sabremike said: If there is a God the Jackets fire Torts and we hire him and kick Ralph upstairs. We desperately need a guy like that who will come in, kick ass, take names and hold people accountable. He would not fit the Pegula culture. Similar to Gallant, Torts is too blunt, harsh and would want more control. Another coaching change right now will hurt the team and the Pegula reputation. I say wait until the off season to show the league RK git a fair shot. Give RK this season to earn us another lottery pick. Sad state of affairs. Edited February 16 by Pimlach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drag0nDan 93 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) 21 minutes ago, WildCard said: Ralph needs to go, and we need experience back in charge. A GM and a HC with experience. So they should fire adams after like 10 games? It's not as if he's the one who... hired RK and extended skinner/okposo, or signed hutton. They were missing 5 regulars for that game... and several others were away from facilities sick. With a limited amount of space - he brought in Staal (an upgrade over Johansson), rieder/eakin to shore up the PK (which has improved), Hall (whos been almost a PPG player). The PP is still solid - they just can't shoot. I don't know what it is, but this team cannot shoot. I don't know how skinner scored 40 goals, because he's reliably shooting it directly into the goalies stomach. Hall and Eichel are well below career averages shooting. And goaltending is still a huge problem. They have 1 capable goalie in the organization (who if he didn't miss time last year, they'd have made the playoffs). They spend like little to no money on it, and it shows. 15 million on okposo and skinner... and they have combined for a point. 1. I don't care who skinner plays with... 1 point? Why is he getting outscored by sheahan lazar and rieder? Edited February 16 by Drag0nDan 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carmel Corn 683 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 If GMKA wants to make a real statement that he is truly in charge, then I would love to see him fire Ralph and find a way to sign Gallant. That would tell me that he isn't afraid to act like the boss and tell the players, fans and perhaps even inept ownership that he isn't fooling around and is taking his job seriously. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GASabresIUFAN 2,585 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 No one is getting fired. The roster is mismatched and lacks some pieces but RK's coaching is to blame for the offensive failure. This team's top forwards have no idea how to execute in this system which is pretty scary. The bottom six forwards score occasionally because they have no choice but to go to the net. However as a team we get zero traffic in front of the net and the system seems to keep our best scorers on the perimeter. The sad part is that Okposo, Hall, Eichel, Reinhart, Skinner, and Staal all know how the game should be played. It's long past time that they had a heart to heart with RK and KA and speak up about the terrible offensive system. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norcal 279 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Doubt it will happen till the season is over but if they change coaches again I really hope they get it right. They haven't had a veteran coach in here since Bylsma and he got chased out of here too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
In The Buff 260 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 5 hours ago, SDS said: You may need to update your thoughts on John Tortorella, unless you have a time machine and want to hire a coach from 20 years ago. There’s a reason why the “kick ass” coaching philosophy isn’t around anymore in any sport. I hear that all the time but Bill Belichick is known to put his players thru hell to toughen them up, he was pretty successful. You look at what the BILLS are doing with their "process" & culture. I don't think its hard to make the leap that if you want a hard working team, they need to practice like a hard practicing team. You can't be all soft & coaxing to your players & then expect them to be dogs & go thru walls for you. I think the best coaches would have elements of both in them, knowing when to be good cop/bad cap so to speak. But our teams have been soft & weak & low effort for years it seems now. Perhaps thats because our coaches arent more like a Torts... idk. At this point i think we're all lost on what to do. All these years of losing becomes too much after awhile 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt 1,783 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I don’t even like saying this, but I don’t think they should fire Krueger right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruff Around The Edges 228 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I want to know what has Ralph Kruger proven to earn a PROMOTION upstairs? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inkman 3,371 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 52 minutes ago, Ruff Around The Edges said: I want to know what has Ralph Kruger proven to earn a PROMOTION upstairs? Make him in charge of ruminant procurement. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OhMyDahlin 88 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 Hell, I'd rather see Seth Appert as the coach...at least the Amerks are fun and exciting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drag0nDan 93 Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Carmel Corn said: If GMKA wants to make a real statement that he is truly in charge, then I would love to see him fire Ralph and find a way to sign Gallant. That would tell me that he isn't afraid to act like the boss and tell the players, fans and perhaps even inept ownership that he isn't fooling around and is taking his job seriously. He hasn't even coached a full seasons worth of games.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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