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2 hours ago, jsb said:

As for the ESPN discussion, I thought it was complete and total BS. That wasn't a TD. How many times have you seen the ball be bouncing around in the end zone on a kickoff and the guy just walks off the field and they call it. The guy calls it, picks up his gear, tosses the ball to the ref, WTF did the ref think, he should be banned from further games in the playoffs, what a bozo. 

They lost the game because 1st half Allen didn't show up and he also was horrible in the 2nd half, his weekly fumble, what the heck was he thinking on the lateral, poor decisions, etc..... I see a lot of Texans games, they also play some stupid football but like the Bills they're a physical football team and I think that's why Singletary wasn't used a bit more, as good as I think he'll be he did have almost 20 plays called for him and that's about tops for him. They needed more from Gore also

Had he not caught the ball it would be considered a dead ball as we've seen all year. However he caught it in the air thus meaning the ball was live.

I've heard that it shouldn't of been a touchdown but rather a safety with it being Bills ball after the punt off.

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The Colts.  If Brady were to play for another franchise, it’s the Colts.  Indianapolis has a questionable quarterback.  So they may be interested.  Colts have a quality offense for Brady to work with.  I really doubt Brady will go to a team that cannot considered as a contender.  So if the Pats decide not to extend him and he does not want to retire, he’ll be a Colt.

 

Let me add I just hope he’s done w/ the Patriots and the AFC East.  

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21 minutes ago, GoPre said:

The Colts.  If Brady were to play for another franchise, it’s the Colts.  Indianapolis has a questionable quarterback.  So they may be interested.  Colts have a quality offense for Brady to work with.  I really doubt Brady will go to a team that cannot considered as a contender.  So if the Pats decide not to extend him and he does not want to retire, he’ll be a Colt.

 

Let me add I just hope he’s done w/ the Patriots and the AFC East.  

Colts will add Rivers.   I think pats will go after Rosen as back up for Brady.    Or they go after Newton.

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Why Rivers? Rivers went 23 to 20 in TDs and Ints.  Brady went 24 to 8.  $3 million separated Brady and Rivers in pay this year.  If Colts can pick between the 2, get Brady.  

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If I'm the Colts and I'm inclined to take a chance on a guy who might be finished, I'm taking it on Cam. 

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Unless there’s something I’m missing, what’s with the talk on Cam Newton?  He has a year left on his contract.  The Colts would have to give something up to make him their quarterback.  Why do that? 

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2 minutes ago, GoPre said:

Unless there’s something I’m missing, what’s with the talk on Cam Newton?  He has a year left on his contract.  The Colts would have to give something up to make him their quarterback.  Why do that? 

All year word out of Carolina was they were looking to move on, so presumably, they'd cut him. Of course, Kyle Allen then proceeded to play like Nathan Peterman for half the year, so who knows. 

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And the worst clock management of the playoffs award goes to...Sean Payton! A 10 year old Madden addict would've played that last few minutes better. 

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17 hours ago, SwampD said:

Pretty GD fun game to watch.

Josh Allen is a joy to watch. Anyone blaming him for this loss is a moron.

We need a real #1 receiver.

Dabol is garbage.

Just tackle someone, anyone.

We’re close.

That's a joke, right?  

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Just now, Kruppstahl said:

That's a joke, right?  

Nope. The only reason the Bills even had a game this weekend was because of him.

I can’t wait to see what this team looks like when we get an actual #1 receiver.

Dabol sucks. 

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6 hours ago, triumph_communes said:

Allen again goes crazy in the moment.  That’s who he is, lol, maybe if he had good receivers it would make a difference. 
 

When Duke Williams is the receiver he had to rely on for all the big moments, it’s hard to blame Allen at the end of the day.  And next season were poised to fix the damn receiver problem. 
 

Refs were horrendous. I get caught up every year and then get reminded how their ***** calling and non calling destroys every game. They call phantom holds to give Houston momentum on their TD drives, but then ignore their whistles on Buffalos redemption drives to the point where it nearly cost them the game.

 

Cant really blame Allen for those terrible missed assignments. Watson’s recovery time win the game was absolutely heart wrenching. 
 

Bills should’ve won. They should’ve lost after that disastrous drive down the field yet they managed to get it to OT and nearly defend two pointless drives in OT. The team has heart, game is hard. 
 

Not scoring in multiple red zones killed them. And I blame Daboll for that. I hope he leaves Im not impressed by any of the positives he supposedly brings. Don’t understand why our defense couldn’t make a goal line stand?  Those 2 point conversions shouldn’t have happened. 

 

At least it’s was the most entertaining game I’ve watched in a long long time. I had hope, something that Tyrod never gave me. 

Allen's performance in the second half was abysmal.  It was just horrible.  He's something like the 25th best QB in the league, depending on how you want to try to evaluate things, and we simply can't score enough points to win against good teams as a result.

And actually, Houston's D isn't even very good and they are very susceptible to a strong passing game.

They also have a HC who makes a habit out of getting his ass kicked in playoff games. 

He was still good enough to beat us.

Very discouraging game, especially with a 16-0 lead and being in total control at least through the first half.

Our record is likely to be worse next year, so I really wanted to enjoy the moment this year while everything fell into our laps.  It ended far too early! 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Nope. The only reason the Bills even had a game this weekend was because of him.

 

That doesn't mean that he isn't to blame for the loss.  He and Daboll share that blame.

It is time to expect Better from that team.  No more "hey, lil' guys made it to the playoffs!"  No more going to the airport after losses to the Cheatriots.  We should expect Better.

3 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said:

Our record is likely to be worse next year

No, it isn't.  Another off-season for Allen to work on some things, and an opportunity to draft or sign a true #1 receiver (I love Brown, but he's a #2), and this team is going to be better.

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2 minutes ago, Eleven said:

That doesn't mean that he isn't to blame for the loss.  He and Daboll share that blame.

It is time to expect Better from that team.  No more "hey, lil' guys made it to the playoffs!"  

He was hitting guys in the hands and they weren’t catching it. JFC! The only balls these jokers can catch are picture perfect spirals placed directly in their hands with no one contesting them. Any time any DB makes contact with any of them, they don’t catch the ball. They’re really not good.

An why is Dabol playing for field goals  in the third. They frigging went into their safe hide-hole shell. And why was there so many empty backfields in OT. He was calling the game like they needed to score a touchdown on every play instead of just running an offens to get down the field. It Was Terrible.

Not on Josh. 

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1 minute ago, SwampD said:

He was hitting guys in the hands and they weren’t catching it. JFC! The only balls these jokers can catch are picture perfect spirals placed directly in their hands with no one contesting them. Any time any DB makes contact with any of them, they don’t catch the ball. They’re really not good.

An why is Dabol playing for field goals  in the third. They frigging went into their safe hide-hole shell. And why was there so many empty backfields in OT. He was calling the game like they needed to score a touchdown on every play instead of just running an offens to get down the field. It Was Terrible.

Not on Josh. 

...including Texans DBs. Twice, one of which should have been a pick-6. One can believe in Allen as the franchise without treating him like an overprotective parent.

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3 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said:

...including Texans DBs. Twice, one of which should have been a pick-6. One can believe in Allen as the franchise without treating him like an overprotective parent.

Right. Just like every other QB in every other game ever.

I may be a bit overprotective, but to say he is the reason we lost borders on the ridiculous.

 

Edit: No, wait. It’s ridiculous.

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Cleveland apparently cancelled Daboll’s Interview today, no word if it will be rescheduled. 
 

I would look at moving on from him anyways and look at Pat Shurmur. He is horrible as a HC, but seems good as OC particularly working with younger QBs. 
 

I would draft a WR high, even trade up for one, and sign either AJ Green or Amari Cooper in UFA. 

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55 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said:

Allen's performance in the second half was abysmal.  It was just horrible.  He's something like the 25th best QB in the league, depending on how you want to try to evaluate things, and we simply can't score enough points to win against good teams as a result.

And actually, Houston's D isn't even very good and they are very susceptible to a strong passing game.

They also have a HC who makes a habit out of getting his ass kicked in playoff games. 

He was still good enough to beat us.

Very discouraging game, especially with a 16-0 lead and being in total control at least through the first half.

Our record is likely to be worse next year, so I really wanted to enjoy the moment this year while everything fell into our laps.  It ended far too early! 

 

 

 

After that fumble my wife commented he looked scared on the bench as if he was going to cry... No one encouraging him... think he got into his own head too much.  Maturity will help him.

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7 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

After that fumble my wife commented he looked scared on the bench as if he was going to cry... No one encouraging him... think he got into his own head too much.  Maturity will help him.

My take was that he put so much pressure on himself in the moment that he became overwhelmed by it.

That tells me he doesn't trust his teammates to share the load.  He's got to do it himself.  He needs to grow out of that.

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Late to the party, again.

THE BUFFALO BILLS GOT JOBBED!!

That's all.

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IMHO, Houston got better QB play, better coaching and the better of the matchups between their stud WR and our stud CB and between their QB and our D generally. 

The Bills went conservative in the 2nd half, AND their execution down the stretch was terrible.

Even so, they would’ve won in OT had either Knox or (I think) Ford executed a standard block in Allen’s designed run in OT — which might be more a statement on Houston being a mediocre playoff team than on anything the Bills did.

I’d be fine moving in from Daboll.  The O didn’t produce nearly enough TDs this year or against a lousy Houston D yesterday.  But moving on from Allen would be insane.  he had some good and some bad yesterday IMHO like he frequently does, but it was his first full year as a starter and the sky is the limit.  He needs another good offensive lineman and a true #1 WR plus more experience and he could be a huge star. 

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16 hours ago, Eleven said:

I didn't want that touchdown.

Why? That’s stupid. Rules are rules. Their guy didn’t know them. Ours did.

If that was [some other team not the Bills] the media would be gagging on [said coach’s ****] on how prepared they are to know the rules like that,... just world class coaching.

There is no justification whatsoever for taking those points off the board.

Yeah, NFL.

 

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3 hours ago, SwampD said:

He was hitting guys in the hands and they weren’t catching it. JFC! The only balls these jokers can catch are picture perfect spirals placed directly in their hands with no one contesting them. Any time any DB makes contact with any of them, they don’t catch the ball. They’re really not good.

An why is Dabol playing for field goals  in the third. They frigging went into their safe hide-hole shell. And why was there so many empty backfields in OT. He was calling the game like they needed to score a touchdown on every play instead of just running an offens to get down the field. It Was Terrible.

Not on Josh. 

I don’t get the complaints about what he called in OT. He had them 1st and 10 at the 42 and called a play that wins the game if Knox makes a block.

Then they are stopped from attempts game winning field goal on a horrible block.

My only complaints with Dabol are his use of Gore and I’m not sure if that’s all him. Other then that, the offense is still a long way from completed after changing nine starters and working with a second year quarterback. I hope he doesn’t get hired away and is able to install more of his plan with an added couple of playmakers.

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8 minutes ago, tom webster said:

I don’t get the complaints about what he called in OT. He had them 1st and 10 at the 42 and called a play that wins the game if Knox makes a block.

Then they are stopped from attempts game winning field goal on a horrible block.

My only complaints with Dabol are his use of Gore and I’m not sure if that’s all him. Other then that, the offense is still a long way from completed after changing nine starters and working with a second year quarterback. I hope he doesn’t get hired away and is able to install more of his plan with an added couple of playmakers.

It took too many 3rd and longs to make any of that happen. The only time someone is in the backfield, they get the ball and it’s a shock to no one when they get tackled for a loss. I think his play calling is atrocious and if not for Josh being really Effie good on 3rd, Dabol is gone. I think he sucks.

Edit: maybe he is calling the plays like he has the horses to make them happen. Please let this be true,... process...

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9 minutes ago, SwampD said:

It took too many 3rd and longs to make any of that happen. The only time someone is in the backfield, they get the ball and it’s a shock to no one when they get tackled for a loss. I think his play calling is atrocious and if not for Josh being really Effie good on 3rd, Dabol is gone. I think he sucks.

Edit: maybe he is calling the plays like he has the horses to make them happen. Please let this be true,... process...

There were two third and longs and one was caused because Allen missed a read and an open receiver and one because a lineman missed a stunt and caused a quick throw to Williams that he should have caught.

Read through the drive charts. You might be surprised.

In the age of free agency and small windows of opportunity it is vital for a young QB to work with the same coordinator for at least three years. It takes at least that long to install the whole offense and hopefully you have another coach on staff that continue the same offense if the coordinator moves on to another job. It would be a huge step back if they had to hire a new coordinator with a different philosophy.

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Just now, tom webster said:

There were two third and longs and one was caused because Allen missed a read and an open receiver and one because a lineman missed a stunt and caused a quick throw to Williams that he should have caught.

Read through the drive charts. You might be surprised.

In the age of free agency and small windows of opportunity it is vital for a young QB to work with the same coordinator for at least three years. It takes at least that long to install the whole offense and hopefully you have another coach on staff that continue the same offense if the coordinator moves on to another job. It would be a huge step back if they had to hire a new coordinator with a different philosophy.

Probably true. I’ll just say that I have more faith in Josh being good than Dabol.

I also thought that (like a lot of times during the season) that played it soooo safe in the 3rd. It was painful, and it ended up biting them in the ass.

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