MattPie Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 On that note, I can't remember the last time I actually saw that called. It was in the playoffs the last time I saw, possibly going in the Sabres favor. I'm thinking pre-2004-lockout though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 It was in the playoffs the last time I saw, possibly going in the Sabres favor. I'm thinking pre-2004-lockout though. Yeah I remember Sabres called it versus Flyers, 2000ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Put yourself in their shoes...you're a lowly equipment guy, and you're really going to risk your position by lying to the franchise player? No but I'd expect more than a new pair of kicks in my locker. Like the keys to a new bmama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yeah I remember Sabres called it versus Flyers, 2000ish? I think I remember Jagr getting it called against to start an overtime. Perhaps while with the Rangers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 La'El Collins signed with the Cowboys That's too bad. He would have been a nice addition here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 La'El Collins signed with the Cowboys Somebody get Jerry Jones a cup of coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Make Brady play the entire season with deflated balls - as in balls that are completely flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 saw a tweeted report -- from a cbs affiliate and linked to a guy at the miami herald (so, not a sterling source) -- that said the league has a full season's suspension on the table for brady. if true? wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 The best part about this? Brady's claim to being the greatest is officially dead. He can win the next 5 Super Bowls and it won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 The best part about this? Brady's claim to being the greatest is officially dead. He can win the next 5 Super Bowls and it won't matter.Isn't that why we do our best to live with integrity? So we don't shame ourselves and negate all of our accomplishments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 The best part about this? Brady's claim to being the greatest is officially dead. He can win the next 5 Super Bowls and it won't matter. I don't agree with this at all. Now, I'd pick Montana as the greatest. But Brady is still #2. He got caught cheating and then lied about it, both of which reflect poorly on his character -- but not on his football accomplishments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I don't agree with this at all. Now, I'd pick Montana as the greatest. But Brady is still #2. He got caught cheating and then lied about it, both of which reflect poorly on his character -- but not on his football accomplishments. So the first two times that he, and his coach and his team, got caught don't factor in to this at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Tom Brady should be second to Terry Bradshaw no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I think Brady's still firmly in the discussion for best ever. The cheating probably makes him lose any tiebreakers or close calls, so Montana would probably get my nod ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I don't agree with this at all. Now, I'd pick Montana as the greatest. But Brady is still #2. He got caught cheating and then lied about it, both of which reflect poorly on his character -- but not on his football accomplishments. Montana Manning Favre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Tom Brady should be second to Terry Bradshaw no? That's what sucks about this, we really don't know how good he is. He knew the defensive calls for,... we don't know how many games. Maybe even this year. I really don't know nor would I put it past Belichick or their entire organization to do it. They have now been caught three times cheating. THREE. He's not the best ever,… even if he might have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 The best part about this? Brady's claim to being the greatest is officially dead. He can win the next 5 Super Bowls and it won't matter. I think Brady is top ten...but you have to consider he has had great teams around him and probably the greatest coach(kudos to walsh and oLombardi). If Buffalo had drafted him it would have been a completely different story. Guys like ken Anderson didn't have the teams/organizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 But the stupid chowder heads got to live all the glory of winning. You can't take that away from them. Just like you can't take away the misery of bills fans. In the end... I don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Montana Elway(carried some bad Denver teams on his back) Marino(freak show passer) Brady/Young/Favre/Fouts Manning Tarkenton/Rodgers Brees/Anderson/Kelly/Bradshaw/Moon/Namath Otto Graham,Sid Luckman and others never saw play...johnny U was too young to see him til he was way past it. Len Dawson,Bob Griese,Ken Stabler,Lamonica,Sonny Jurgenson,Boomer honorable mention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 But the stupid chowder heads got to live all the glory of winning. You can't take that away from them. Just like you can't take away the misery of bills fans. In the end... I don't care. Sports is about hate, and feeling superior when you vanquish your hated opponent. I'm just pissed that I no longer hate Tom Brady. He means nothing now and I merely dismiss him. What fun is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 They throw Pete Rose out of baseball for betting on other games, yet here we have someone directly altering the potential outcomes of games and then lying about it. $250,000 is my guess. It'll be interesting if they give him more than the two you get for punching out your fiancee on camera. aye, there's the rub. there's logic to what you're saying. i'm just saying that it's dubious to me whether any objective advantage was gained. Yep. Which is not nothing. Did you read all of the texts? It sounds like they actually might have done that at times. :w00t: Does it really matter if the cheating was successful or not? The best part about this? Brady's claim to being the greatest is officially dead. He can win the next 5 Super Bowls and it won't matter. Who's the best hitter ever in baseball? That's what sucks about this, we really don't know how good he is. He knew the defensive calls for,... we don't know how many games. Maybe even this year. I really don't know nor would I put it past Belichick or their entire organization to do it. They have now been caught three times cheating. THREE. He's not the best ever,… even if he might have been. what's the third? I honestly don't remember. Spygate, this, and ...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 https://twitter.com/zemgus94/status/595694211321753600 :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 It'll be interesting if they give him more than the two you get for punching out your fiancee on camera. Does it really matter if the cheating was successful or not? Who's the best hitter ever in baseball? what's the third? I honestly don't remember. Spygate, this, and ...? They got caught taping and were told to stop. The Spygate that everyone knows and loves was the second time they got caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Who's the best hitter ever in baseball? Barry Bonds might have been the most entertaining hitter in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Who's the best hitter ever in baseball? Well that debate will just rage forever. One I'd like to have, but not in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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