TrueBlueGED Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Pats fans live in their own little world, it's been a treat reading the responses to this. They seem confident he's going to appeal and win it, to get the suspension taken away, is this more of their shoving their heads up their ######? Or is that a possible or probable outcome? A reduced suspension is possible (and NFL precedent may even make it likely) but there is no F'n way the suspension is just abandoned. He's getting at least 1-2 games when all is said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Belichick should have been suspended too. Remember, "ignorance is not an excuse" Yep, but it kind of explains why he threw Tommy boy under the bus when the story broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) If we're comparing Belichik to Payton, let's please remember that Payton's crime was that his DC was promoting potentially life-altering injuries, in exchange for money, on his watch (although apparently not known by him). Belichick allegedly* didn't know his Q was deflating footballs. *Bullsh*t. In any event. No comparison; let's stop it. Edited May 12, 2015 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 If we're comparing Belichik to Payton, let's please remember that Payton's crime was that his DC was promoting potentially life-altering injuries, in exchange for money, on his watch (although apparently not known by him). Belichick allegedly* didn't know his Q was deflating footballs. *Bullsh*t. In any event. No comparison; let's stop it. I'm not comparing the crime, I'm comparing the standard of punishment. If ignorance is not an excuse for team actions, then ignorance should not be an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Super. No Brady in Buffalo I think that will be the first time in my life where we might be favored to beat the Pats :beer: And, the Patriots play Pittsburgh, @Buffalo, Jacksonville, @Dallas. That could very well be a 1-3 record without Brady, or at best 2-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Without my Bills-coloured glasses it seems pretty hefty considering the crime. That's doesn't stop me from thoroughly enjoying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) "Despite our conviction that there was no tampering with footballs, it was our intention to accept any discipline levied by the league," Kraft said. "Today's punishment, however, far exceeded any reasonable expectation. It was based completely on circumstantial rather than hard or conclusive evidence. "We are humbled by the support the New England Patriots have received from our fans throughout the world," the statement said. "We recognize our fans' concerns regarding the NFL's penalties and share in their disappointment in how this one-sided investigation was handled, as well as the dismissal of the scientific evidence supported by the Ideal Gas Law in the final report." -"How can I make our fans feel better, staff?" -Kraft -"Blame physics?" -" brilliant" -Kraft More ass-hatary by the Pats @thadbrown7: This @SI_PeterKing article suggests Brady could still face #Bills if appeal outside NFL lasts into season #Billsmafiahttp://t.co/QaXY3Jlp9B Edited May 12, 2015 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Without my Bills-coloured glasses it seems pretty hefty considering the crime. That's doesn't stop me from thoroughly enjoying it. I'm pretty confident the punishment was more about stonewalling the investigation than the actual crime. And ya know what, if it's too harsh, there's a really easy way to avoid the NFL's justice system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 -"How can I make our fans feel better, staff?" -Kraft -"Blame Physics?" -"###### brilliant" -Kraft More ass-hatary by the Pats @thadbrown7: This @SI_PeterKing article suggests Brady could still face #Bills if appeal outside NFL lasts into season #Billsmafiahttp://t.co/QaXY3Jlp9B Waitaminnit! Now they're attacking valued Sabrespace posters? Is there no end to their evil ways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Waitaminnit! Now they're attacking valued Sabrespace posters? Is there no end to their evil ways? They could have any number of moles in here, who knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) I still think the NFL might be smart to, upon appeal, at least consider giving Brady his game checks back for maybe two of the games to see if that would quell the appeals. Kraft originally said that he wouldn't appeal the penalties against the team but his statement sounds like he might... They should try to stand strong on those. What's with the 2017 4th? Seems so odd. Edited May 12, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Without my Bills-coloured glasses it seems pretty hefty considering the crime. That's doesn't stop me from thoroughly enjoying it. I'm pretty confident the punishment was more about stonewalling the investigation than the actual crime. And ya know what, if it's too harsh, there's a really easy way to avoid the NFL's justice system... It was for the stonewalling and more particularly the lying, IMHO. There has to be a steep disincentive to lie -- otherwise almost everyone will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Brady’s suspension changes everything for the Patriots, whose off-season defections in the secondary made them vulnerable even before the future Hall of Famer felt Goodell’s wrath for “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the game of professional football.” The Jets’ revamped secondary, frightening defensive line and improved wide receiver corps shouldn’t be overlooked and the Dolphins’ acquisition of Ndamukong Suh makes them hard to ignore, but the Bills are best positioned to dethrone New England. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-rex-ryan-chance-winning-afc-east-pumped-article-1.2218552?utm_content=buffera90a6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=mmehta+twitter Meanwhile ESPN has the Dolphins going 11-5 prior to the suspension (Bills 8-8) and favors them for the AFC East now. Edited May 12, 2015 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'd rather the Bills be underdogs. It suits them much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'd rather the Bills be underdogs. It suits them much better. Agreed, when was the last time this team did good when the league expected them to be haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'd rather the Bills be underdogs. It suits them much better. Agreed, when was the last time this team did good when the league expected them to be haha Screw that. I want to be favored going in to every game, then not only win every game, but cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'd rather the Bills be underdogs. It suits them much better. This could very well be Bledsoe part II. Garapalo has 4 games to show his stuff. Say the Pats go 3-1 or 4-0......I would assume Brady keeps his job for this year....but the Pats are suddenly out a 1st and a 4th. If Billy thinks Rex is all hat and no cattle on offense, why not send an old man to a QB desperate team like Buffalo who you get to play twice a year and know inside and out, and who is only worth an extra win over the kid for a year or two? It's all contingent on how the kid plays.....but a realistic scenario. New England would be -4 1/2 with Brady if I had to guess, and will probably be -2 unless they lose to Pittsburgh and the Bills beat Indy. That's the only way Bills are favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'm not comparing the crime, I'm comparing the standard of punishment. If ignorance is not an excuse for team actions, then ignorance should not be an excuse. I understand and somewhat agree with you, but when the league is facing lawsuits over injuries, and not deflated footballs, it needs to make a higher public showing of zero tolerance. For marketing, not legal, reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 a realistic scenario. i think maybe i need you to define "realistic." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 i think maybe i need you to define "realistic." Brady getting traded given the Pats history and the fact they are out a 1st......if the kid goes 3-1 or better......30-40% To the Bills? I think the team would have to have a great defense showing and be 9-7 or so again with crappy QB play. They would be under the gun. I would say that there is a better chance Brady is the Bills QB by next May 12th than there is the Sabres still playing hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 This could very well be Bledsoe part II. Garapalo has 4 games to show his stuff. Say the Pats go 3-1 or 4-0......I would assume Brady keeps his job for this year....but the Pats are suddenly out a 1st and a 4th. If Billy thinks Rex is all hat and no cattle on offense, why not send an old man to a QB desperate team like Buffalo who you get to play twice a year and know inside and out, and who is only worth an extra win over the kid for a year or two? It's all contingent on how the kid plays.....but a realistic scenario. New England would be -4 1/2 with Brady if I had to guess, and will probably be -2 unless they lose to Pittsburgh and the Bills beat Indy. That's the only way Bills are favorite. I think the only way Brady is traded is if he bombs and Garrapalo shines. I don't think that is very likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Screw that. I want to be favored going in to every game, then not only win every game, but cover. Amen. I'm sick to death of being the underdog. I know many Buffalo fans eat that up, but I'm done with it. I want to be great enough where everyone who isn't a Buffalo fan hates us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Brady getting traded given the Pats history and the fact they are out a 1st......if the kid goes 3-1 or better......30-40% I see. I think there's an exception to every rule, and Brady is it for the Pats. I also don't know anything about the alphabet soup they have as a #2. So I'd peg those chances in the 5% range. I would say that there is a better chance Brady is the Bills QB by next May 12th than there is the Sabres still playing hockey. Okay, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Agreed, when was the last time this team did good when the league expected them to be haha When was the last time the league expected Buffalo to be good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 When was the last time the league expected Buffalo to be good? Maybe 1965? Maybe 1995? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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