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"The Sabres and Bills share a Dr.Capaccuino that has done these neck procedures before. That Dr. and Eichel's camp have not spoken yet."

What? Why have they not spoken to this guy? 

 

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Just now, Norcal said:

Borrowed from the post above....

"The Sabres and Bills share a Dr.Capaccuino that has done these neck procedures before. That Dr. and Eichel's camp have not spoken yet."

What? Why have they not spoken to this guy? 

 

I'd guess because he doesn't think the surgery is the right course of action and that would leave Eichel's camp at an even worse position. The guy was supposedly one of the first in the States to do that type of surgery and has done a lot of research on the operation.

My guess is he sees it being to risky due to where the herniated disk is and the potential life threatening risks that could come from it. Essentially, Eichel would be told to have the surgery if he weren't going to play again or was nearing the end of his career. Because he's still so young; the benefits and risks are far more drastic. A fusion is known to both work and allow a player a long career. A replacement hasn't exactly shown to be able to produce the same results. Primarily because its rare and most cases are far more recent hence a lack of long term data.

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11 minutes ago, Norcal said:

Borrowed from the post above....

"The Sabres and Bills share a Dr.Capaccuino that has done these neck procedures before. That Dr. and Eichel's camp have not spoken yet."

What? Why have they not spoken to this guy? 

 

See the Eichel thread.

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19 hours ago, WildCard said:

Dumping this all here since it covers a wide variety of topics, but here are Friedman's notes from his 31 Thoughts Podcast:

https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thoughts/heres-32-thoughts/

Pacific

- Ducks : Bob Murray, very patient. Teams hear no, no, no, then he'll randomly say yes. Anaheim asked for Sabres #1OA pick, quick no from Buffalo. Friedman would be very surprised if they go all offseason without doing something, been too quite. Might do a deal like Chicago did with Seabrooke with their Kessler contract. They're willing to get creative and do some things that are new.

- Flames : Made a team filled with Sutter-like players. Still thinks Calgary is looking around like the Ducks. 

- Oilers : Thinks they'll regret moving Ethan Bear. Doesn't think their goalie situation is done yet. Sabres were rumored for Koskinen. 

- Kings :  Rebuild is over, FA period proved it. Outbid NYR for Denault. 

- Sharks : Still looking for moves, Kane was best player last year status throws them in flux. 

 - Kraken : Beat Colorado to Grubauer with term. Won't be any easy games against them, very physical roster. 

- Canucks: Deeper, better. Hughes and Pettersson contracts will be very important; can't sign long term because they don't have the cap space to do it. Good AHL depth.

- Vegas : Good for both Vegas and Fleury to move on; they didn't trust him in goal, he didn't trust their on ice decisions with goalie position. People in the organization weren't happy with picture his agent posted last year with a sword in Fleury's back, they didn't forget that. Sabres - Vegas is aggressive, if they see someone good they go after him, i.e. Pietrangelo. Until Eichel is somewhere else, Friedman will always think Vegas sees Eichel as a great player they can add. 

Central

- Coyotes : 'Pain for Shane (Wright)' brought up, Friedman - 'That's Arizona and Buffalo'. Thinks this is the right time to rebuild. Went for it under Chayka, didn't work.

- Blackhawks : Chicago is going for it. Friedman - Had a couple lawyers tell him, there will be a lot of people (i.e. victims) that will feel more comfortable coming forward with potential depositions if the report the Blackhawks are doing internally is kept private, something to consider when debating releasing the report. 

- Avalanche : Landeskog wanted to be an Avalanche, and he wanted to win. On if Colorado was a stealthy team for Eichel: They could do it, but the cap wouldn't make it work. 

- Stars : There's a chance they could move a goalie. Concerned if Bishop will be able to play, hence getting Holtby. Took a run at Getzlaf.

- Wild : Needed 3 D-men going into the offseason, filled all of those spots. Wanted Foligno, didn't get him. Looked at Bogosian and McCabe; Friedman is very happy for McCabe. Guerin needs to deal with Kaprizov and Fiala, and Eichel. Friedman really doesn't think they're done here, says just like Anaheim he doesn't think it's over. If they don't get Eichel, Boldy and Rossi will likely get playing time with the Wild. 

- Predators : Preds usually make moves late, doesn't think they're quite done just yet. 

- Blues : Bring in Saad at good value, and Buchnevich; latter dealt from NYR because they knew he was leaving. Tarasenko is the other big question mark in the NHL right now, the other being Eichel. Somebody in St.Louis, likely the agent, is lobbing media bombs to get him out of there every few days or so. St.Louis is doing the same as Buffalo, holding strong until they get the deal they want. Interesting comparable. Thinks Tararsenko to Islanders maybe. 

- Jets : Liked what they did so far. Thinks they try and move Sami Niku.

Metro

- Hurricanes : (Jokes?) acquiring ex NYR is their big thing right now. Owner is big on putting values on players and refusing to go past it. Hamilton and this offseason is a big test on if that approach works or not. Still thinks this team is good, love Ethan Bear.

- Blue Jackets : Werenski contract reminds Friedman of OEL in Arizona, have to do it for credibility of franchise; A) we'll pay B) people want to stay here. Lot of people didn't think they could keep Werenski; teams called, they were determined to keep him. This is where analytics miss, not understanding the intangibles (fans, organizations, perceptions, player mentalities) on keeping a guy like Werenski. 

- Devils : Wanted to breath some life into their franchise (Hughes draft pick, and Hamilton). Have looked into Tarasenko; some teams, including NJ, aren't crazy about his health. NJ isn't done, looking for a winger.

- Islanders : Friedman's theory is Lou Lamoriello is trying to trade for someone (possibly Tarasenko) and he hasn't resigned players because he doesn't want anyone to know how much cap he has. He thinks Palmeri, Parise, and Cizikas are all signed, but Lamoriello is willing to wait months to keep teams in the dark. 

- NYR : Thinks Tom Wilson was a factor for Reaves, but he also thinks the Islanders pushing them around was a factor too. They have some big decisions to make with existing players on their teams on what/whether to pay them or not. Thinks they were in on Denault. Doesn't think they're remotely close to done.

- Flyers : Probably take a run at signing Hart long term. They're gambling on coaches, players being much better on defense this year. They wanted people caring more during play/about winning, sighted Ristolainen and Atkinson as 'high care guys'.

- Penguins : Friedman thinks they've been trying to move Marcus Pettersson. 

- Capitals : Ovechkin is not too much term to give up, as far as Friedman is concerned you can never pay him enough based on what he's meant for that organization. Thinks he wants Gretzky's record. Doesn't think they're going to be able to move Kuznetsov.

Atlantic

- Bruins : Ullmark was really, really, surprising, makes you wonder about Rask's future. Need a 2nd line center. With Krejci gone and Bergeron having 1 year left and getting older, Friedman wonders if they're looking around the league looking for a #1 center. 

- Sabres : Did the interview with the doctor on the neck procedures, says people reached out after and educated Friedman on insurance and how the surgery goes that he hadn't thought of and wishes he asked in that interview. The Sabres and Bills share a Dr.Capaccuino that has done these neck procedures before. That Dr. and Eichel's camp have not spoken yet.

How much does the Peter Fish note move an Eichel trade along? Sentiments don't surprise anyone, Eichel just wants the process to be over and wants to get the procedure done on if he can do it. Russo (Wild) commented on Friedman's interview and said the Wild will let him make that decision. Eichel's camp probably knows that. Eichel is mad, but Sabres are mad too by being pushed. He thinks the Sabres have that line and will not move at all; if they would, he'd be gone already. 'Sports are very alpha. You have to be able to handle intimidation, and be willing to intimidate. Sabres are looking at this as a test to that' (paraphrased). Believes he's eventually traded. 

Sabres will look for more vets, and goalie help. Thought Anderson would retire, he's there to mentor really. They're looking to fit pieces around kids that will play. They want Mitts and Cozens in big roles. They want to evaluate Mittlestadt. 

- Reg Wings : Yzerman is building, still a long term play. 

- Panthers : Bennett and Montour are good deals. Spencer Knight will likely be starter, with Bobrovsky splitting. Would like to have Chara. Believes they're trying to sign Barkov. Reinhart could be anywhere between 7 years, $6.5-7.5M per year.

- Canadiens : Savard really wanted to go to Montreal. Hoffman and Montreal flirted last year, couldn't move Tatar to make room. Denault gone makes Suzuki's role much different/harder, because now he's a 2 way guy instead of the scorer he was.

- Senators : Friedman believes they challenge for the playoffs. Surprised Dadanov didn't fit there. Wonders if they go after a veteran on a short term contract.

- Lightning : Likes what they did this offseason. Biggest question is how are they going to replace the Gourde, Goudreau, Coleman line. 

- Leafs : Maple Leaf players sense mentality around organization is they want to ramp up urgency on the team, won't even be easy to make the playoffs in this division. 4 teams for 2 playoff spots, that's tough. The organization is really trying to convey if they don't accomplish something this year, there will be changes. 

Thanks for the effort. Your summary was very informative. 

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20 hours ago, Norcal said:

Borrowed from the post above....

"The Sabres and Bills share a Dr.Capaccuino that has done these neck procedures before. That Dr. and Eichel's camp have not spoken yet."

What? Why have they not spoken to this guy? 

 

Dr. Coffee works for the Sabres. He’ll likely have the same opinion as the team. In fact he likely advised the team to help them form their opinion. How will that help Eichel ?

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5 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Around the AHL - I’m hearing Rochester will hire another assistant coach.  I think it will be a popular selection.  I’m not gonna say who yet. 

'Lach, you were right about me this. Tell your sister 'Spacers, you were right.

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5 hours ago, bunomatic said:

Dr. Coffee works for the Sabres. He’ll likely have the same opinion as the team. In fact he likely advised the team to help them form their opinion. How will that help Eichel ?

His expertise is valuable since he's done surgeries like this in the past. Jacks Dr's would have an opportunity to pick his brain on the procedure and possibly come to a better understanding of it. 

I don't think he would default to the team, most surgeons when given the chance would perform the surgery, its what they do. 

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6 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

That's like paying Ristolainen 9.5 

And we all can't blame skinner for cashing in we all wanted him back 

All? Not quite. 

Most? Ok yea.

And the vast vast majority of fans didn’t like the cap hit for Skinner when it was announced. And now it’s safe to say no one except Skinner and his family like his cap hit.

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1 hour ago, Buffalonill said:

That's like paying Ristolainen 9.5 

And we all can't blame skinner for cashing in we all wanted him back 

The fanbase wanting something to happen is not the bar to set for professional sports franchises

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11 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

Nice job Botts.  Bozo kept Glotov around for another year and cut Hagel loose.

 

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2021/8/6/22612234/chicago-blackhawks-sign-brandon-hagel-to-3-year-4-5-million-contract-extension-salary-cap

Yes I never fully understood what the problem was with Hagel and the Sabres.  He had an injury and a down year in the WHL when we should have signed him and I assumed at the time they worried about the number of players signed under contract but he looked really good the following year in the WHL and continues to look good as a bottom 6 energy player for the Hawks.

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