nfreeman Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'm not sure about that. If he's smart he waits on the expansion draft. If ullmark is taken his path to starter is much clearer here. Good call. The Sabres would be absolutely insane to offer Petersen the backup job to Lehner. He's a solid prospect and we've spend a lot of time developing him to this point but he still has a long way to go. Like most goalie prospects it will still take time. Look at how much time Dubnyk, Miller or Biron needed and all of them were much greater prospects then Petersen is. He never had a full-time goalie coach in college because ND doesn't employ one and thats one reason why the Sabres send Andrew Allen to ND so often to work with him post-practice. Petersen still needs development. If the guy wants to go straight to the NHL, then cya. Luckily for him, the only team that would probably be willing to offer him that is the team he probably wants to go most to- Chicago. Because they dominate the regular season so much and have such good depth on their team that they can risk a few starts. It's not like he'd go 0-14 anyways. I agree with much of this too, but it's still significant to Peterson if Ullmark is taken in the expansion draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 The Sabres would be absolutely insane to offer Petersen the backup job to Lehner. He's a solid prospect and we've spend a lot of time developing him to this point but he still has a long way to go. Like most goalie prospects it will still take time. Look at how much time Dubnyk, Miller or Biron needed and all of them were much greater prospects then Petersen is. He never had a full-time goalie coach in college because ND doesn't employ one and thats one reason why the Sabres send Andrew Allen to ND so often to work with him post-practice. Petersen still needs development. If the guy wants to go straight to the NHL, then cya. Luckily for him, the only team that would probably be willing to offer him that is the team he probably wants to go most to- Chicago. Because they dominate the regular season so much and have such good depth on their team that they can risk a few starts. It's not like he'd go 0-14 anyways. I'm not saying to give him the backup job. I'm saying he still starts in Roch. But Petersen knows if a placeholder is sitting at the backup job in Buffalo then he's one Lehner injury/choke job away from starting in Buffalo in a year or two. With Ullmark sitting there it's another long term viable option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Do we think Petersen is better than Ullmark? Just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Do we think Petersen is better than Ullmark? Just asking. No. Do I think Ullmark is better than Petersen? Not sure either. All I know is goalies take forever to develop and can be very much a crap shoot. I want as many in my system as possible. Unfortunately it doesn't look like we're going to be keeping both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Do we think Petersen is better than Ullmark? Just asking. I think Ullmark is going to be at least a decent NHL backup and I hope he becomes a solid NHL starter. I have faith in Ullmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Do we think Petersen is better than Ullmark? Just asking. No. Ullmark is a much better goalie. Petersen is not NHL ready, nor do I think he ever will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 No. Ullmark is a much better goalie. Petersen is not NHL ready, nor do I think he ever will be. Pi does not = goalie whisperer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 No. Ullmark is a much better goalie. Petersen is not NHL ready, nor do I think he ever will be. Curious, what makes you think that? And I'm not pro or con on him, but his age, performance when compared to other net minders out of the NCAA and the teams need for depth at goalie all lead me to the conclusion he may very well be the next Ryan Miller for the Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 No. Ullmark is a much better goalie. Petersen is not NHL ready, nor do I think he ever will be. Linus had the most saves in the A last season. I'm guessing most people don't follow both pro leagues and want the familiarity of a goalie coming from college being really good and becoming a staple on the team. Peterson has yet to play pro hockey. Ullmark has played pro and played very well. My money's on Linus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) Curious, what makes you think that? And I'm not pro or con on him, but his age, performance when compared to other net minders out of the NCAA and the teams need for depth at goalie all lead me to the conclusion he may very well be the next Ryan Miller for the Sabres. These Miller comparisons need to stop. Miller was one of the greatest goalies in college hockey history. Petersen may not have even been the best goalie in hockey east. Their only similarity is that they were drafted by the same team in the same round. Let's be honest, that's exactly why people keep mentioning it. Edited June 17, 2017 by shrader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 These Millee comparisons need to stop. Miller was one of the greatest goalies in college hockey history. Petersen may not have even been the best goalie in hockey east. Their only similarity is that they were drafted by the same team in the same round. Let's be honest, that's exactly why people keep mentioning it. Thank you, if he doesn't want to play for us him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Thank you, if he doesn't want to play for us ###### him Eggsactly. No need to stroke this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Curious, what makes you think that? And I'm not pro or con on him, but his age, performance when compared to other net minders out of the NCAA and the teams need for depth at goalie all lead me to the conclusion he may very well be the next Ryan Miller for the Sabres. Miller put up some excellent numbers his final two seasons at MSU, some of the best college hockey has ever seen: GAA: 1.23 / 1.77 SV%: 0.950 / 0.936 Let's compare that Petersen: GAA: 2.20 / 2.21 SV%: 0.927 / 0.926 You want to compare someone to Miller? Try Connor Hellebuyck. His final two years at UMass-Lowell: GAA: 1.37 / 1.79 SV%: 0.952 / 0.941 Petersen just isn't at that same level IMO.... a comparable would be Matt Hackett who put up almost identical numbers in his final year in juniors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Miller put up some excellent numbers his final two seasons at MSU, some of the best college hockey has ever seen: GAA: 1.23 / 1.77 SV%: 0.950 / 0.936 Let's compare that Petersen: GAA: 2.20 / 2.21 SV%: 0.927 / 0.926 You want to compare someone to Miller? Try Connor Hellebuyck. His final two years at UMass-Lowell: GAA: 1.37 / 1.79 SV%: 0.952 / 0.941 Petersen just isn't at that same level IMO.... a comparable would be Matt Hackett who put up almost identical numbers in his final year in juniors. This makes me feel better when he signs with someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Miller put up some excellent numbers his final two seasons at MSU, some of the best college hockey has ever seen: GAA: 1.23 / 1.77 SV%: 0.950 / 0.936 Let's compare that Petersen: GAA: 2.20 / 2.21 SV%: 0.927 / 0.926 You want to compare someone to Miller? Try Connor Hellebuyck. His final two years at UMass-Lowell: GAA: 1.37 / 1.79 SV%: 0.952 / 0.941 Petersen just isn't at that same level IMO.... a comparable would be Matt Hackett who put up almost identical numbers in his final year in juniors. Thanks. Good, gives me more insight. And I now concur, if he doesn't sign, no big loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Miller put up some excellent numbers his final two seasons at MSU, some of the best college hockey has ever seen: GAA: 1.23 / 1.77 SV%: 0.950 / 0.936 Let's compare that Petersen: GAA: 2.20 / 2.21 SV%: 0.927 / 0.926 You want to compare someone to Miller? Try Connor Hellebuyck. His final two years at UMass-Lowell: GAA: 1.37 / 1.79 SV%: 0.952 / 0.941 Petersen just isn't at that same level IMO.... a comparable would be Matt Hackett who put up almost identical numbers in his final year in juniors. Lol, do you have this saved somewhere? It's a good post, I'm kinda shocked every one hasn't seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ct fab Posted June 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Its been posted 100 times. I get it he's no Miller, though Miller's team was better. Fact is all other talent evaluators say he's a sure thing nhler. Prob is, he's 10% signing with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 problem also is here is no such thing as a "sure thing" with prospects, especially goalies, and either way they take years before being ready in most cases. Lehner is actually young by goalie standards and should not be pushed away so easily although if JBotto is shopping him (Lehner) Kane and /or reinhart I suppose he deems them to be problems in the dressing room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 problem also is here is no such thing as a "sure thing" with prospects, especially goalies, and either way they take years before being ready in most cases. Lehner is actually young by goalie standards and should not be pushed away so easily although if JBotto is shopping him (Lehner) Kane and /or reinhart I suppose he deems them to be problems in the dressing room So you think that if he is shopping Reinhart it is because he is a problem in the locker room or am I reading this wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Botterill just said that Cal will go to free agency. My take is that there is basically no way that Cal becomes a Sabre at this point. "I do not believe he will be signing with the Buffalo Sabres" Jason Botterill /Thread Edited June 23, 2017 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Botterill just said that Cal will go to free agency. My take is that there is basically no way that Cal becomes a Sabre at this point. "I do not believe he will be signing with the Buffalo Sabres" Jason Botterill /Thread Well that's a bummer man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Botterill just said that Cal will go to free agency. My take is that there is basically no way that Cal becomes a Sabre at this point. "I do not believe he will be signing with the Buffalo Sabres" Jason Botterill /Thread Guess we'll see a goalie or two in this draft (not from the NCAA). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Makes the whole Carrier-Ullmark thinking a little more credible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Its been posted 100 times. I get it he's no Miller, though Miller's team was better. Fact is all other talent evaluators say he's a sure thing nhler. Prob is, he's 10% signing with us Anybody that can tell you he is a sure bet NHL'er should be marketing their talents. Know one knows for sure but several scouts say he is not even best in Hockey East and might not be top ten in college hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Anybody that can tell you he is a sure bet NHL'er should be marketing their talents. Know one knows for sure but several scouts say he is not even best in Hockey East and might not be top ten in college hockey ^ This. Oettinger is better IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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