Huckleberry Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 McKenzie/Duchene: Three pieces = young (20-24) established player + first-round pick + top prospect. #Avs Too expensive. McCabe/1st/Nylander is their probable asking price For us yes, we don't want to deplete our back end to much any more, but to me Duchene is worth that seeing he has term left on his current deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Fasching, Bailey and Baptist are RW'ers and Carrier, while fast looks suited for line 3/4 duties. Nylander I've seen and commented on. I still see the LD and LW as a weakness in the organization. Why haven't we seen more of Baptiste in Buffalo? I think he's having a decent year (I don't pay too close attention to ROC though so I may be talking out of my Azz).For us yes, we don't want to deplete our back end to much any more, but to me Duchene is worth that seeing he has term left on his current deal.Are we trying to become the Colorado Islanders? On that note... Isn't Tavares' contract up this year (and aren't I hearing he's growing tired on the Island well Brooklyn)? At the risk of having too many centers would you go after him? I would. Eichel at #2 and ROR at #3. It would only be second to Pittsburgh. Edited February 3, 2017 by Beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 On that note... Isn't Tavares' contract up this year (and aren't I hearing he's growing tired on the Island well Brooklyn)? At the risk of having too many centers would you go after him? I would. Eichel at #2 and ROR at #3. It would only be second to Pittsburgh. Okposo-Tavares-Moulson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Why haven't we seen more of Baptiste in Buffalo? I think he's having a decent year (I don't pay too close attention to ROC though so I may be talking out of my Azz). Are we trying to become the Colorado Islanders? On that note... Isn't Tavares' contract up this year (and aren't I hearing he's growing tired on the Island well Brooklyn)? At the risk of having too many centers would you go after him? I would. Eichel at #2 and ROR at #3. It would only be second to Pittsburgh. Absolutely. If his uncle can help, even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Okposo-Tavares-Moulson? Matty Mo is going to fetch us a first rounder ;) so he won't be around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Tavares has this season and next left on his deal, then he can sign with the Leafs. Ducks for cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Tavares has this season and next left on his deal, then he can sign with the Leafs. Ducks for cover Not really hoping for him lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Tavares has this season and next left on his deal, then he can sign with the Leafs. Ducks for cover Yup, just like Stamkos did...... Heard recently he was open to an extension with the islanders..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 The Sabres are going to sell because they can and they should. Murray said it. There are teams that think they have a shot. He knows the Sabres don't have a shot. Limping into a wild card spot and being eliminated in Round 1 doesn't do anything. Gionta will be sought after and comes with no strings. Kulikov is the same. Kane should be highly sought after. Moulson not as much - existing contract and all. So, if he's able to move them for a good D prospect or two or better I think he'd do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 The Sabres are going to sell because they can and they should. Murray said it. There are teams that think they have a shot. He knows the Sabres don't have a shot. Limping into a wild card spot and being eliminated in Round 1 doesn't do anything. Gionta will be sought after and comes with no strings. Kulikov is the same. Kane should be highly sought after. Moulson not as much - existing contract and all. So, if he's able to move them for a good D prospect or two or better I think he'd do it. i agree but i could see a slight window with Moulson because he is only owed $3 mil over the last two years of his contract so a team could use him to get closer to the cap in dollars while saving $4 mil actual dollars? Meh, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Yup, just like Stamkos did...... Heard recently he was open to an extension with the islanders..... Sarcasm. There are some rumblings he may be looking to move on, now that the Isles maybe nomadic for a few seasons i agree but i could see a slight window with Moulson because he is only owed $3 mil over the last two years of his contract so a team could use him to get closer to the cap in dollars while saving $4 mil actual dollars? Meh, maybe? I could see Las Vegas taking a chance on him for this very reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 Sarcasm. There are some rumblings he may be looking to move on, now that the Isles maybe nomadic for a few seasons I could see Las Vegas taking a chance on him for this very reason Vegas is picking (IIRC) 30 NHL players in June, you have to figure the average cost of the top-end exposed players will be around $3M. I don't think they're going to have trouble getting to the floor, so they'd only pick up Moulson if they really thought they'd be bringing in talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Limping into a wild card spot and being eliminated in Round 1 doesn't do anything. Disagree with this specific point, I think being part of a playoff chase and getting to the playoffs would be very valuable for a young team. I'm just not sure how likely it is, but if they're close at the deadline (within 4-6 points) I probably stand pat or even look to make small rental type additions. Edited February 3, 2017 by Lanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Kane to the Ducks for a good young expansion draft exempt LHD and a 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Kane to the Ducks for a good young expansion draft exempt LHD and a 2nd. I don't want the Sabres to trade Kane, but even I would do what you suggest. I don't think the Ducks do that trade, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Vegas is picking (IIRC) 30 NHL players in June, you have to figure the average cost of the top-end exposed players will be around $3M. I don't think they're going to have trouble getting to the floor, so they'd only pick up Moulson if they really thought they'd be bringing in talent. Yeah i don't think Vegas will have any interest in picking up Moulson. However, the bad contract i do think they may consider is Josh Gorges. They'd only have him for one year before he can walk, and with a group of dmen which i assume won't be very good, they might like the fact he's a leader and have a lot of games under his belt. Whoever they get they'll still struggle a lot in their first season but atleast Gorges can work some positive vibes in practice and what not, and would be an expiring contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Kane to the Ducks for a good young expansion draft exempt LHD and a 2nd.Shea Theodore, LHD The issue would be cap. Your taking Stoner and most likely an in-season cap dump to make it work. Edited February 4, 2017 by Lucky E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Some thoughts from a Kings Blog regarding possible Sabres Trade Targets http://www.jewelsfromthecrown.com/2017/2/3/14485828/los-angeles-kings-trade-rumors-buffalo-sabres-evander-kane-moulson-kulikov-franson-deadlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Disagree with this specific point, I think being part of a playoff chase and getting to the playoffs would be very valuable for a young team. I'm just not sure how likely it is, but if they're close at the deadline (within 4-6 points) I probably stand pat or even look to make small rental type additions. I don't disagree with you but I think if the players understand the plan they are willing to deal with having had their chance to make the run prior to March 1. If, at March 1, they've not done the job then they look to next year. The roster will be quite a bit different I would think with some of the younger players in Rochester coming up into permanent roles. The Sabres can use this year to make the room by moving out players who are replaceable by the likes of Bailey, Baptiste, Nylander, etc. Some thoughts from a Kings Blog regarding possible Sabres Trade Targets http://www.jewelsfromthecrown.com/2017/2/3/14485828/los-angeles-kings-trade-rumors-buffalo-sabres-evander-kane-moulson-kulikov-franson-deadlin Interesting read. The one point that I hadn't considered is the scattered shifts that Moulson, Ennis, etc. get with ROR and KO. They are showcase shifts so teams can see what they do with some good players around them. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like much. That said, if GMs and coaches believe that Bylsma system is suppressing the player talent then they're likely to ignore on ice results a bit and look more at the foundations of the player. Should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I really don't think those are showcase shifts. Byslma has been notorious for juggling lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I really don't think those are showcase shifts. Byslma has been notorious for juggling lines This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Why haven't we seen more of Baptiste in Buffalo? I think he's having a decent year (I don't pay too close attention to ROC though so I may be talking out of my Azz). Are we trying to become the Colorado Islanders? On that note... Isn't Tavares' contract up this year (and aren't I hearing he's growing tired on the Island well Brooklyn)? At the risk of having too many centers would you go after him? I would. Eichel at #2 and ROR at #3. It would only be second to Pittsburgh. You'll see more of Baptiste in Buffalo when they're done teaching him how to lose in Rochester so he can easily transition to losing in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Ghost has 4-17-21 this season. We need that. Ghost is 23, we need that. Ghost's possession metrics have also improved since his rookie season, another good sign I don't know why he's being scratched, maybe it's bad coaching. But there's talent there, and I want him on our team. Let's go out and get Ghost and Lazar while their values are lowColorado's demands: “It’s high interest on Matt Duchene. It’s also high prices,” said McKenzie. “While there’s no firm offers on the table with the Colorado Avalanche, there have been discussions. Everybody knows the price of poker. That is either three high-end pieces or four high-end pieces. By high-end pieces we mean this: “If it’s three high-end pieces, we’re talking about a player that’s established in the NHL already – between 20-24 years of age – as well as a first-round pick, as well as a top prospect. “If the young NHL isn’t established, if it’s all prospects, then the price goes up to those four high-end pieces.”“The managers that have interest in Matt Duchene that I’ve talked to, they chuckle when you ask them about the asking price,” said Dreger. “They won’t get into specifics out of respect to Colorado, but they just say, ‘It’s ridiculous. We’re not going to pay it.’” http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-colorado-avalanche-open-business/ So pretty much Reinhart (Maybe Girgensons, doubtful though), 2018 1st, and Nylander / Guhle. Hard pass Edited February 5, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Ghost has 4-17-21 this season. We need that. Ghost is 23, we need that. Ghost's possession metrics have also improved since his rookie season, another good sign I don't know why he's being scratched, maybe it's bad coaching. But there's talent there, and I want him on our team. Let's go out and get Ghost and Lazar while their values are low Colorado's demands: http://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-colorado-avalanche-open-business/ So pretty much Reinhart (Maybe Girgensons, doubtful though), 2018 1st, and Nylander / Guhle. Hard pass I'd do that in a heartbeat... just to hear RJ do the M-m-m-m-m-att Duchene! And he's a stud, and close with O'Reilly. Nylander and next years 1st are unknowns. Reinhart will never be on Duchene's level. Ghost is an absolute disaster in his own end, and a turnover machine... hence the healthy scratches... I'll pass. Edited February 5, 2017 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I'd do that in a heartbeat... just to hear RJ do the M-m-m-m-m-att Duchene! And he's a stud, and close with O'Reilly. Nylander and next years 1st are unknowns. Reinhart will never be on Duchene's level. Ghost is an absolute disaster in his own end, and a turnover machine... hence the healthy scratches... I'll pass. I disagree, Reinhart will surpass Duchene in a couple years. What he lacks in speed he makes up in his defensive skills and overall hockey IQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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