DarthEbriate Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: With Power in Buffalo, this looks like an argument to send Bryson and Fitzgerald down. Fitz has to go help Rochester in the next couple days. Bryson wouldn't clear waivers. Some cap-strapped playoff team would take him for 7/8 depth and have him next year as an RFA. Butcher could be waived outright with purpose to reassign to ROC. I can't imagine many teams would pick him up -- even with NJ retaining salary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contempt Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Fitz has to go help Rochester in the next couple days. Bryson wouldn't clear waivers. Some cap-strapped playoff team would take him for 7/8 depth and have him next year as an RFA. Butcher could be waived outright with purpose to reassign to ROC. I can't imagine many teams would pick him up -- even with NJ retaining salary. Butcher would not be playoff eligible iirc though. On 4/10/2022 at 12:03 PM, PromoTheRobot said: It means the Amerks are boned. Every team they are chasing has games in hand on them. They need to win most of their remaining games to get in. It's actually quite a brawl in the division with teams separated by thousandths of a point. Not sure why (COVID probably) but AHL teams are not all playing the same number of games. Yes, that is exactly why. They are qualifying based on winning percentage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Big Amerks win in OT. Back in 5th place, ahead of Belleville who we play next. Must. Win. Game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 9 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Big Amerks win in OT. Back in 5th place, ahead of Belleville who we play next. Must. Win. Game. I'd send Fitz and Bryson down (are both waiver exempt?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 27 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I'd send Fitz and Bryson down (are both waiver exempt?) Casey yes, Bryson no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 100% then send Bryson back. Samuelsson is needed in Rochester but can't send him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Amerks really making it hard on themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Seth is to coaching in the AHL what Housley was to coaching in the NHL. Team is a comically unstructured undisciplined disorganized mess. How is such abysmal coaching going to lead to development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 58 minutes ago, sabremike said: Seth is to coaching in the AHL what Housley was to coaching in the NHL. Team is a comically unstructured undisciplined disorganized mess. How is such abysmal coaching going to lead to development? First Roc game I watched this season. My take was, individuals playing as individuals, and little discipline especially on the powerplay. Peterka reminded me of Afinogenov, and not in the good way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastajoe Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Unless they have a dramatic finish it looks like the Amerks will miss the playoffs. They only had to finish in the top 5 out of 7 teams. The organization talked about wanting to get their young players playoff experience, but then didn’t send down the eligible young players that could have got them there. Another missed opportunity while the Sabres have plenty of healthy veterans sitting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, pastajoe said: Unless they have a dramatic finish it looks like the Amerks will miss the playoffs. They only had to finish in the top 5 out of 7 teams. The organization talked about wanting to get their young players playoff experience, but then didn’t send down the eligible young players that could have got them there. Another missed opportunity while the Sabres have plenty of healthy veterans sitting. It's worth noting 5 AHL teams with lesser points percentages will make the playoffs. Amerks paying the price for being in a tough division. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, pastajoe said: Unless they have a dramatic finish it looks like the Amerks will miss the playoffs. They only had to finish in the top 5 out of 7 teams. The organization talked about wanting to get their young players playoff experience, but then didn’t send down the eligible young players that could have got them there. Another missed opportunity while the Sabres have plenty of healthy veterans sitting. Most people around here know I put little stock into the notion that winning at the AHL level has anything to do with success at the NHL level. I’m surprised with the continued explosion of analytics that no one has done any comprehensive study showing any correlation between AHL success and NHL success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, tom webster said: Most people around here know I put little stock into the notion that winning at the AHL level has anything to do with success at the NHL level. I’m surprised with the continued explosion of analytics that no one has done any comprehensive study showing any correlation between AHL success and NHL success. by team or player? Haven't people done extensive research on NHLe based on age in the AHL and how it translate to scoring in the NHL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: by team or player? Haven't people done extensive research on NHLe based on age in the AHL and how it translate to scoring in the NHL? I’m talking more of whether winning in the AHL translates into winning in the NHL. The numbers you reference project NHL production based on AHL production. No way to know what would happen if they never played in the AHL and were just part of a practice squad of an expanded NHL roster until they were ready to play full time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, tom webster said: I’m talking more of whether winning in the AHL translates into winning in the NHL. The numbers you reference project NHL production based on AHL production. No way to know what would happen if they never played in the AHL and were just part of a practice squad of an expanded NHL roster until they were ready to play full time. It’s a very hard thing to study as well. Under the assumption that the NHL parent club is a perennial playoff team, with most of their spots locked down by proven vets, their AHL team is likely going to have more talent. Teams like the Sabres have/had been a talent vacuum and Roch has been laid bare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 minute ago, tom webster said: I’m talking more of whether winning in the AHL translates into winning in the NHL. The numbers you reference project NHL production based on AHL production. No way to know what would happen if they never played in the AHL and were just part of a practice squad of an expanded NHL roster until they were ready to play full time. Maybe to many variables? For example what type of franchise are they going to in the NHL. When Ryan Miller, Roy, Vanek and Pommers came up from Rochester after a dominating season in the A, the Sabres were already turning it around and were ready to take a leap forward. I feel much the same way about the influx of Power, Quinn and JJP. However this isn't always the case. Often Calder Cup winning teams in the A are very veteran laden squads. I went and looked at the leading scorers in the AHL. Using points, the Sabres have 2 of the only four legit prospects in the top 22 scorers. They are both the youngest two scorers on the list. Glass (13th) has been called up. Quinn is 22nd in points but Quinn is second in the A at Pts/GP at 1.40. JJP in 14th in points. Not bad for a 19 year old. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, tom webster said: Most people around here know I put little stock into the notion that winning at the AHL level has anything to do with success at the NHL level. I’m surprised with the continued explosion of analytics that no one has done any comprehensive study showing any correlation between AHL success and NHL success. I donno. I think winning at any level is important. Theres alot involved in a long playoff run, in the room, on and off the ice theres plenty to observe and soak in and learn from imo. I just don't know if this particular Amerks team is capable of it. The defensive leaders are in Buffalo, frankly, leading the Sabres. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastajoe Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: It's worth noting 5 AHL teams with lesser points percentages will make the playoffs. Amerks paying the price for being in a tough division. The Amerks were in 2nd place earlier in the season. Then they got hurt with callups to the Sabres and injuries. But the Sabres now have 9 healthy defensemen and still won’t send the Amerks any help. No excuse for that. Edited April 17, 2022 by pastajoe 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, pastajoe said: The Amerks were in 2nd place earlier in the season. Then they got hurt with callups to the Sabres and injuries. But the Sabres now have 9 healthy defensemen and still won’t send the Amerks any help. No excuse for that. This. So much this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, pastajoe said: The Amerks were in 2nd place earlier in the season. Then they got hurt with callups to the Sabres and injuries. But the Sabres now have 9 healthy defensemen and still won’t send the Amerks any help. No excuse for that. Samuellson is one of the best 3 defensemen on the team, it would be silly to send him down. I believe the only other defender that could be sent down (was sent down earlier to be eligible) is Fitzgerald, which would make sense to send down, but I guess they want to see a bit more of him for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, pastajoe said: The Amerks were in 2nd place earlier in the season. Then they got hurt with callups to the Sabres and injuries. But the Sabres now have 9 healthy defensemen and still won’t send the Amerks any help. No excuse for that. They can send Bryson, that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, pastajoe said: The Amerks were in 2nd place earlier in the season. Then they got hurt with callups to the Sabres and injuries. But the Sabres now have 9 healthy defensemen and still won’t send the Amerks any help. No excuse for that. They made some free agent moves to try and shore up the back end. They have lost alot of man games to injury this season like you said and lost some games with bad lineups along the way. Im not sure that was a good time for anyone to be sent down because they were playing for Buffalo. Either way. Rules are rules. Some teams just know how to work around them better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Toker with a beauty of a save! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Geez Power… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Time to rebound… Take back the momentum… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.