Hoss Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: Hagg isn't too much of a factor here and the second rounder is a big maybe that won't even be selected for 2 years, we're talking 5+ years until impact, if any, so it amounts to the 13th overall for Ristolainen. It's definitely great market value by Adams. One way to look at it though is a 50/50 shot at a guy who contributes significantly in a few years for a player that, right now, plays among the most NHL minutes of all the humans playing in the NHL. Add in a healthy dose of "we can fix him" from Fletcher and the way he expects that fanbase to come around to Risto based on his physical play, I can understand why the Flyers did it. That’s not how any of this works. Hagg is 26 and likely plays in the NHL this year either for us or another team so he matters even if Charts Guys say he sucks. The 2023 2nd rounder won’t be around for a while but it is a good piece. 13th is the gem but it’s not the only piece to consider here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Borgen who?? Holy ***** Kevyn. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: That’s not how any of this works. Hagg is 26 and likely plays in the NHL this year either for us or another team so he matters even if Charts Guys say he sucks. The 2023 2nd rounder won’t be around for a while but it is a good piece. 13th is the gem but it’s not the only piece to consider here. I'm speaking from Fletcher's POV, how he likely rationalizes a trade like this. So, yes, it's most definitely how this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 That 2023 draft is gonna be deep as hell too. Think 2019 or 2003. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: Cozens can do that If Cozens can develop into half of what Iginla was … that would delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I'm in shock I thought this dude was worth a 4th or 2nd . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Listening to his exit interview talking about the potential for being selected in the expansion draft "whatever happens happens". He talks about his injuries last season and struggles with his play this year. He sounds a lot like Risto in the interview (except with a Swedish accent). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Power has to be the pick now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thorny Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Power has to be the pick now. BPA at 1 or no? Edited July 23, 2021 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: Power has to be the pick now. Losing a RHD means taking a LHD? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, pi2000 said: Power has to be the pick now. Maybe but plenty of good D-men in this draft and some could fall if we start the run on forwards by taking Eklund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: Power has to be the pick now. Why’s that? Because we lost a right handed defenseman we were going to likely lose after this season anyways? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, WildCard said: Losing a RHD means taking a LHD? Yes especially since Hagg is a LHD and we got him too. All the LHD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Darcy like negotiating right there. Good job KA. He might get a Lindros package yet. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Everyone. Let’s just take a moment. Gather round. Honestly let’s hold hands. Hum a little bit. Bring s’mores if you want. Kiss each other, whatever! Just now, LGR4GM said: Yes especially since Hagg is a LHD and we got him too. All the LHD But I thought it’s not about need? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Brawndo said: 14. Seriously? So, is Arizona going to be on the clock for the #11 pick they can't use so ESPN can babble for an extra 10 minutes not pronouncing guy's names right? And what's the over under for whether ESPN notes that the Cards forfeited that pick? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Hoss said: Everyone. Let’s just take a moment. Gather round. Honestly let’s hold hands. Hum a little bit. Bring s’mores if you want. Kiss each other, whatever! Posting it again because F it, why not 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Wallstedt or Cossa? either but that has to be the pick, i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 K wait so it's 14 but in reality it'll be the 13th pick. What should I put in the title? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 This is great news! I can't believe people wanted to protect Borgen over Risto, lol. As soon as Borgen gets waived he'll end up right back on the Sabres. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 We’re going to bitch and moan about Hagg and the pick is a coin toss to actually replace Risto. Meh. But about what I expected. Hoped for a legit 3-4 D man that was actually tough instead of wanna be tough and offensively talented. Not to be I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Yes especially since Hagg is a LHD and we got him too. All the LHD So Adams is the Bizarro Botterill? (That has a certain ring to it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Wow..... we really undervalued Risto!!!! Nice pickup from Philthy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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