wsam4031 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, sabrefanday1 said: I find it hard to believe they got that much for Risto but then again I always liked him and think the team will sadly miss his aggressiveness. We are a far too easy team to play against and without Risto there is no one to hit anybody. It is a good return mind you and I have no doubt Risto will do really well in Philly (and we have to face him a bunch of times which won't be fun) i think he needed to go. i was one who wanted to keep him cause now this is the softest team in the nhl if they werent before. Only guy on our roster that had any grit. On the other hand a 1st round pick coming back is a lot more than i thought we would get 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Thorny said: K wait so it's 14 but in reality it'll be the 13th pick. What should I put in the title? lol 14th. They traded the 14th pick but we will get the 13th player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Weave said: We’re going to bitch and moan about Hagg and the pick is a coin toss to actually replace Risto. Meh. But about what I expected. Hoped for a legit 3-4 D man that was actually tough instead of wanna be tough and offensively talented. Not to be I guess. Yep. Watching this season circle the drain. But '23-'24, they're there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Taro T said: So Adams is the Bizarro Botterill? (That has a certain ring to it.) The Bizarro Botteril that basically got an equal return for Risto that Botteril got for ROR. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Weave said: We’re going to bitch and moan about Hagg and the pick is a coin toss to actually replace Risto. Meh. But about what I expected. Hoped for a legit 3-4 D man that was actually tough instead of wanna be tough and offensively talented. Not to be I guess. It's been only positive things about this deal! With good reason There's certainly an argument for being uneasy with it. Reasonable chance we are a weaker team next season because of it, correct? One might view the deal in those terms. As already stated it cannot be questioned that in terms of perceived market value it looks like a home run Edited July 23, 2021 by Thorny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/ Already updated for the pick showing the Sabres getting Fabian Lysell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, NJhopelessSabresfan66 said: Wow..... we really undervalued Risto!!!! Nice pickup from Philthy Some of us knew better https://www.sabrespace.com/community/topic/29295-seattle-expansion-protection-list/?do=findComment&comment=1386912 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Yes especially since Hagg is a LHD and we got him too. All the LHD Na, we're going to take RHD Corson Ceulemans at #14 cuz of the Granato connection. Edited July 23, 2021 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Excellent deal for Adams imo there, I hope we can get the 6'6" 210 lbs. goalie Sebastian Cossa with that pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: K wait so it's 14 but in reality it'll be the 13th pick. What should I put in the title? lol It's 13 for all intents and purposes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Maybe GMKA will take Philly's 2nd rounder next year in 2023 and use that to move up from #14 this year into the top 10...or even 5? Dreger seemed to imply that Risto was the most likely to be moved today....I was skeptical anything would happen...so much for my gut feel. Whoops, wrong year. Edited July 23, 2021 by Carmel Corn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Yep. Watching this season circle the drain. But '23-'24, they're there. I hope not. Slow down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Na, we're going to take RHD Corson Ceulemans at #14 cuz of the Granato connection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Carmel Corn said: Maybe GMKA will take Philly's 2nd rounder next year and use that to move up from #14 this year into the top 10...or even 5? Dreger seemed to imply that Risto was the most likely to be moved today....I was skeptical anything would happen...so much for my gut feel. It’s actually a 2023 second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 For the record while it feels like we fleeced them this is what a trade for someone like Risto should look like. As @Weavepointed out two of these things are lottery tickets (one is a very good one) and the other is a defensemen we probably won’t love. But it’s good value for a player in Risto who is flawed but should thrive on the first competitive team he’s played on in the pros. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Lol anyone mad about us getting a 1st for Ristolainen, a player who was never going to sign here, is just hilarious to me. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Youth Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Risto looked the same under multiple coaches with different styles of play and systems - I don’t see much more there to be “unlocked” but best of luck Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, WildCard said: Getting the #13 overall for Risto would be incredible, let alone another 2nd. Shows that Risto does indeed have value, and protecting him over Will Borgen was the right move. All of you that freaked out over that, look at what we just got for Risto. But! But! But! If this deal was made before the freeze the Sabres could have still protected Borgen keeping him and letting someone else go instead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Hoss said: For the record while it feels like we fleeced them this is what a trade for someone like Risto should look like. As @Weavepointed out two of these things are lottery tickets (one is a very good one) and the other is a defensemen we probably won’t love. But it’s good value for a player in Risto who is flawed but should thrive on the first competitive team he’s played on in the pros. Yes, but also this is a rental deal, he’s only there for a year unless he re-signs in Philly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: Lol anyone mad about us getting a 1st for Ristolainen, a player who was never going to sign here, is just hilarious to me. That's the best part of all of this. Philly paid a lot for what really could just be a ***** rental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, Hoss said: For the record while it feels like we fleeced them this is what a trade for someone like Risto should look like. As @Weavepointed out two of these things are lottery tickets (one is a very good one) and the other is a defensemen we probably won’t love. But it’s good value for a player in Risto who is flawed but should thrive on the first competitive team he’s played on in the pros. We only think 14th overall is a lottery ticket because we've drafted like crap for a decade. Risto was 1 year from UFA. What a haul by our GM 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: For the record while it feels like we fleeced them this is what a trade for someone like Risto should look like. As @Weavepointed out two of these things are lottery tickets (one is a very good one) and the other is a defensemen we probably won’t love. But it’s good value for a player in Risto who is flawed but should thrive on the first competitive team he’s played on in the pros. Said the exact same thing as me and mine "didn't matter" 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Power has to be the pick now. Changes nothing. There was a 95% chance that Risto was gone before Power was in the NHL even if he wasn’t traded at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 Just now, apuszczalowski said: But! But! But! If this deal was made before the freeze the Sabres could have still protected Borgen keeping him and letting someone else go instead I know you're joking but this deal wasn't getting made before the freeze. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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