Thorny Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, inkman said: This is where the rubber meets the road. We were never going to get Eichel’s replacement. I think getting someone or maybe a couple someone’s akin to Reinhart would be a reasonable outcome. Too many fans thought we’d be getting a top 5 player in the league. Never gonna happen. Don't think top 5 was on the table as even Eichel isn't a top 5 player, but I would definitely be interested to see the type of offers that may have been on the table if hockey trades were an option - from all we've heard, that's never been something Adams has been after. He's wanted the futures. So the best case (I'd argue, reasonable) ask/scenario would be for a prospect centre that has a 1st line ceiling. Eichel's ceiling is not a reasonable ask. Even Zegras...odds are very low he becomes the player Eichel is. A prospect C that could reasonably, hypothetically evolve into a first line C is, I think, what the baseline should be. Whether or not that's Krebs, depends on who you ask - - - On a side note.. It's funny that people think this is all about character, when really, it's all about money. Edited November 1, 2021 by Thorny 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just constantly laughing at every "the deal is close except for (litany of crucial things that are not close)" comment from the insiders 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Allen Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, darksabre said: Just constantly laughing at every "the deal is close except for (litany of crucial things that are not close)" comment from the insiders “Insiders” have no idea what they are talking about. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Thorny said: $ $ $ https://youtu.be/4ke5eSys09g 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said: “Insiders” have no idea what they are talking about. ...except for my source who says nothing is close and has maintained that stance throughout figure it out sheeple, smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: ...except for my source who says nothing is close and has maintained that stance throughout figure it out sheeple, smh You're not supposed to tell people about me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Allen Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, pi2000 said: ...except for my source who says nothing is close and has maintained that stance throughout figure it out sheeple, smh Your source is wrong. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. Allen said: Your source is wrong. 🙂 This says otherwise. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Money means what exactly here? Retention of salary? Cap dump contracts? Liability if the worst result happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 My source says we are in a simulation and nothing is real. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 I heard there is a chance he may possibly be traded soon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 When somebody makes a point to mention every 7th post that they have a source… They really don’t… someone’s just looking for a way to take their opinion more seriously. there are a couple posters on here that have true legitimate sources… And they never mention that they have a legit true source. Why do you think that is? The answer is obvious. at least that’s how I see it. :shrug: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Zamboni said: When somebody makes a point to mention every 7th post that they have a source… They really don’t… someone’s just looking for a way to take their opinion more seriously. there are a couple posters on here that have true legitimate sources… And they never mention that they have a legit true source. Why do you think that is? The answer is obvious. at least that’s how I see it. :shrug: Not every negative opinion about other posters needs to be aired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Zamboni said: When somebody makes a point to mention every 7th post that they have a source… They really don’t… someone’s just looking for a way to take their opinion more seriously. there are a couple posters on here that have true legitimate sources… And they never mention that they have a legit true source. Why do you think that is? The answer is obvious. at least that’s how I see it. :shrug: My source says you are wrong.😜 Edited November 1, 2021 by Flashsabre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Not every negative opinion about other posters needs to be aired. I disagree 😀 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Has the statute of limitations run out on “If I need more money, I will dig another well”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Has the statute of limitations run out on “If I need more money, I will dig another well”? Isn't about the raw dollars it is about the cap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Has the statute of limitations run out on “If I need more money, I will dig another well”? Unlikely to anything to do with real money. More so with cap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Am I correct in inferring that Pegula is unlikely to allow retention on Eichel is because they would still be partially on the hook if the surgery goes wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Am I correct in inferring that Pegula is unlikely to allow retention on Eichel is because they would still be partially on the hook if the surgery goes wrong? I doubt it, even retention would be paid by insurance more than likely. Barring insurance not covering the surgery which still would leave a fraction of the risk at 2mil. I believe it’s a cap reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Am I correct in inferring that Pegula is unlikely to allow retention on Eichel is because they would still be partially on the hook if the surgery goes wrong? I don’t think so. Whoever’s doctors approve the surgery would be fully on the hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) As a fan base, I think in general many of the fans have been tolerant of waiting out a trade on Eichel, mostly because the team is winning. However, once we hit that 2-3 game losing streak (or more), things are going to get pretty ugly with a lot of fans wanting something done. I'd like to say personally I understand the 'big picture' and I'm better than that, but honestly I'm probably not. As long as the team gives me something good to watch I'm content, but if the on-ice product starts getting bad to watch, I'm going to really want something else to think about regarding this team. 5 wins in 8 games has gotten Adams a little space with the fanbase regarding the Eichel trade, but when that record turns a bit south that may not be the case anymore. Edited November 1, 2021 by mjd1001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: As a fan base, I think in general many of the fans have been tolerant of waiting out a trade on Eichel, mostly because the team is winning. However, once we hit that 2-3 game losing streak (or more), things are going to get pretty ugly with a lot of fans wanting something done. I'd like to say personally I understand the 'big picture' and I'm better than that, but honestly I'm probably not. As long as the team gives me something good to watch I'm content, but if the on-ice product starts getting bad to watch, I'm going to really want something else to think about regarding this team. 5 wins in 8 games has gotten Adams a little space with the fanbase regarding the Eichel trade, but when that record turns a bit south that may not be the case anymore. Why though? An Eichel trade will not fix the team immediately. This is a long term trade. Young players/prospects and picks will take time to bear fruit. Eichel can’t play anyways right now. Everyone had the Sabres pegged for last OA. They won’t be. I don’t see pressure on Adams to get a deal done based on record. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, thewookie1 said: Unlikely to anything to do with real money. More so with cap I don't think the Sabres will have a "close to the cap" issue for at least 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 I don't think it's a cap issue. I think it's the $50MM left on Jack's deal, which will not be insurable when Jack has the ADR, and the (logical) desire of the acquirors to reduce that number as much as possible by getting the Sabres to retain part of it, take back bad contracts, or both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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