shrader Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: arguably, for not coming forward earlier. I have no problem blaming someone for that, subsequent beating or not. edit: And by that, I mean that I have no problem blaming someone for turning the other way if/when a child is being beaten 30 minutes ago, Hoss said: You said “they” should have done something “far sooner.” You can try to dance around it but what you’re saying is this happened because she failed to do something. No, I'm saying that I have a major problem with someone looking the other way over multiple vicious beatings of a child. Edited July 10, 2018 by shrader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Let’s just assume the worst about what a member posts instead of recognizing that an internet forum is a lousy communication medium and giving the benefit of the doubt and asking for clarification. That seems productive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, shrader said: I have no problem blaming someone for that, subsequent beating or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Oof true or not this sucks... bad news... for all involved no matter how it turns out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 I'm gonna stand down for a while, I think. And I'm gonna stop parsing how other people are reacting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Hey... just poppin in... There are now unconfirmed reports that McCoy sent "a couple of dudes" to do this and that this girl was his ex gf who refused to leave one of his houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Hoss said: It took six posts to victim blame. Impressive. The alleged victim and the accuser (i.e., the person who made the instagram post) are different people. If the accuser knew of child abuse and didn't come forward, the accuser is completely blameworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Well, regardless of not having said anything in the past. This is in the open now. In one way or another it will be addressed. Just waiting to see how it plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eleven said: The alleged victim and the accuser (i.e., the person who made the instagram post) are different people. If the accuser knew of child abuse and didn't come forward, the accuser is completely blameworthy. That's one of the odd things about this. I have absolutely no clue who is talking. And before this triggers another wave of finger pointing, I mean that in the most generic sense possible. Did that post come from the bloodied girl? A friend who saw it all? A friend who heard it from someone else? Someone who doesn't actually know either person? A neighbor? Aud Smell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, shrader said: That's one of the odd things about this. I have absolutely no clue who is talking. And before this triggers another wave of finger pointing, I mean that in the most generic sense possible. Did that post come from the bloodied girl? A friend who saw it all? A friend who heard it from someone else? Someone who doesn't actually know either person? A neighbor? Aud Smell? Quote A friend of McCoy’s girlfriend, Delicia Cordon, has posted what is claimed to be a photo of Cordon with graphic facial injuries, along with a message that contends McCoy is responsible for them. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/07/10/report-bills-aware-of-allegations-against-lesean-mccoy/ I will note other stories have said Cordon is an Ex GF at this time. Edited July 10, 2018 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 If true, what a reminder that your favorite athletes can be colossally evil human beings. Shady was my dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Hey... just poppin in... There are now unconfirmed reports that McCoy sent "a couple of dudes" to do this and that this girl was his ex gf who refused to leave one of his houses. There I was thinking that these allegations could not get worse. 13 minutes ago, Eleven said: The alleged victim and the accuser (i.e., the person who made the instagram post) are different people. If the accuser knew of child abuse and didn't come forward, the accuser is completely blameworthy. Fair feckin' point. 6 minutes ago, shrader said: That's one of the odd things about this. I have absolutely no clue who is talking. And before this triggers another wave of finger pointing, I mean that in the most generic sense possible. Did that post come from the bloodied girl? A friend who saw it all? A friend who heard it from someone else? Someone who doesn't actually know either person? A neighbor? Aud Smell? Why, you motherscratcher. 5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I will note other stories have said Cordon is an Ex GF at this time. Well, yeah - at this time, I'd have to say, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, Randall Flagg said: If true, what a reminder that your favorite athletes can be colossally evil human beings. Shady was my dude. This is why it's important to never have heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 His Instagram statement is not the best, and could point to this sending someone else to do it, but we'll see how it plays out. I'm speaking of the word "direct" in his statement. It's unnecessary if you've had no contact at all with the person in months. Basically the difference between "direct contact" and just saying "contact". 28 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Hey... just poppin in... There are now unconfirmed reports that McCoy sent "a couple of dudes" to do this and that this girl was his ex gf who refused to leave one of his houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Regardless of what the truth is this woman is a victim of some form of physical violence. There’s now multiple people accusing McCoy and claiming he’s got a reputation for such acts. And while the two stories presented by friends of the victim differ it doesn’t mean neither are true or false. When something this extreme happens people lose their minds. Emotions are high and everybody wants somebody to pay for what happened. We’ll see who is responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, darksabre said: This is why it's important to never have heroes. Being an adult sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Eleven said: The alleged victim and the accuser (i.e., the person who made the instagram post) are different people. If the accuser knew of child abuse and didn't come forward, the accuser is completely blameworthy. Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: If true, what a reminder that your favorite athletes can be colossally evil human beings. Shady was my dude. There were a lot of reports about his conduct during his time on Philly. Most were never substantiated, though. I think the party bus came the closest to really breaking. Regardless, IF he was involved in what happens here, I won't be shocked. But yea, definitely not a spot where jumping to conclusions will do anyone any good. We wait. Edited July 10, 2018 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, darksabre said: This is why it's important to never have heroes. Hear, hear. There are public figures whom I admire. But I put no one on a pedestal. Not even ... 1 minute ago, Hoss said: Regardless of what the truth is this woman is a victim of some form of physical violence. Part of the issue right now: We don't even know who that woman is, when the picture was taken, etc. Shoot - there even remains a chance that the photo is not authentic in any way. I wait for more facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, TrueBlueGED said: There were a lot of reports about his conduct during his time on Philly. Most were never substantiated, though. I think the party bus came the closest to really breaking. Regardless, IF he was involved in what happens here, I won't be shocked. The party bus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, darksabre said: This is why it's important to never have heroes. Aim low and you'll almost never be disappointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, shrader said: Aim low and you'll almost never be disappointed Unless you're wearing flip flops in a porta-potty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The party bus? http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/9275214/police-investigating-bus-incident-involving-lesean-mccoy-philadelphia-eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Hear, hear. There are public figures whom I admire. But I put no one on a pedestal. Not even ... Part of the issue right now: We don't even know who that woman is, when the picture was taken, etc. Shoot - there even remains a chance that the photo is not authentic in any way. I wait for more facts. This is where I always fall when the allegations come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Part of the issue right now: We don't even know who that woman is, when the picture was taken, etc. Shoot - there even remains a chance that the photo is not authentic in any way. I wait for more facts. Exactly. I probably reacted too early but "I ignored child abuse but I will not ignore this" was how that the initial post read to me. To me, there's an inconsistency in the whole way that thing was listed out. It's entirely possible that it was done during an overly emotional state, but everything about it leaves a sick feeling in my stomach. I'm sure it's a cultural/generational thing, but if something like this is happening, I'm not running to social media immediately. I at least get police involvement, especially when it's something I want to make public. Maybe they did, but I would hope that someone from a media source like WGR (that was the initial one posted here, correct?) would find that record before posting his/her response. I have a very obvious bias against social media postings as a whole. I'm sure that is very obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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