Thwomp!

Get bent, Randy. You're amongst the last people that I would take advice from on "intelligent and tolerable" online discussions.

Dude, you're always wrong.

13 seconds was a fireable offense on it's own, and it's been trending downhill since then. There's some big contracts that aren't looking so good right now. The whole thing really screams for a rebuild-on-the-fly with a coach who can get it done, but we're gonna settle for "almost". Again.

We're wasting Josh Allen. That's the worst part.

Ban me if McClappy wins a Superbowl with the Bills. I don't care, but I feel pretty safe in betting that he won't.

I would love a championship.

Buffalo Sabres/Bills: Always happy with "almost". In fact, it's rewarded. Bills: 13 seconds, last year's debacle, team chemistry going downhill, poor drafts, over paying "your" guys to the detriment of the team. Yep, sounds like extension time!

These guys needed a hot seat. Not a fan of giving them more security at this point.

The expansion rules are fine. The Sabres have had 50+ years to win a championship, and haven't really been trying for most of the last decade, so of course teams are going to win before we do. The problem is internal, not external, but I know the kool aid is flowing free around here.

Surprised the NHL hasn't tried to force this on us.

Both the NBA and NHL playoffs show why you go all out just to make the playoffs. Anything can happen. Hope Sabres brass is paying attention. Both leagues' overall #1 seeds out in the first round and some other big upsets as well.

I'm not so sure this revelation is a positive development. Changes are needed. Of course the players don't want change.

CUSP! Maybe this will convince Kevvy to drive his Chevy to the levy and make a few deals?

Settling. Fixed the first sentence for you. This team and fans talk about winning a Super Bowl all year because we should be in that conversation. End of the year, we're fine with falling short again, and the GM and coach are moving the goalposts and shifting blame to save their own *****. Leaders also take responsibility, make tough decisions, and don't do whatever McBeane were doing in their press conferences.

And the culture may be breaking down.

What's the goal? Good season or championship? I think Buffalo never wins anything because Buffalo teams and fans settle instead of strive for/demand greatness.

Yep we're gonna run back this same team next year! These guys are too comfortable in their jobs. McB's drafts/acquisitions have not been good. He also basically gave away two gems he did find in the draft that would really, really help right now in Teller and Hodgins. McClappy will never get us over the hump. Plenty of evidence for that. Some kind of rebuild is sorely needed. They're delaying the inevitable and not doing the franchise QB any favors in the process.

OK man I think this is a joke at this point. Mc Clappy is going to honestly evaluate things and make tough decisions? After what happened last year and his press conference yesterday? NFW that's happening.

Yeah I was there. Those teams underachieved in large part to their coach and coaching. This team underachieves in large part to their coach and coaching.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts... They blow games they should never blow every season under this coach. Oh by the way, huge Josh Allen fan, but that Vikings fumble was all on him. They were predictably trying a qb sneak and he was moving before he had the ball because the defense was geared towards it. Because it's predictable. Because our coaching sucks.

Still not what I said. It was a motivator, however, just ask Joe Burrow. They obviously didn't REALLY need it against the Bills yesterday. The NFL and Bills fans got way too presumptive and excited about Atlanta and the Bengals rightfully took offense. We would have been offended if we were in their situation too. I don't care anyway. Bills choked, there will be no accountability, and we'll be right here again next year. That's the bigger problem.

Look at the playoff exits under Mc Clappy. Look at his press conference yesterday. Think he's gonna fire Dorsey or Frazier? This is what coach purgatory looks like. I won't even get started on TE, but that is far from well-equipped, yet highly paid. D Line was atrocious yesterday, which a 34 year old Von Miller coming off ACL surgery, may or may not be able to help at some point next season. Tre White is a huge question mark at CB and the rest, absent Taron Johnson, are average at best. When Poyer goes, the safety position will be barren as well, with a couple huge question marks going forward. This situation calls for an attempted rebuild-on-the-fly as much as any I've ever seen. Chiefs do it almost every year, why can't we? They do have very good coaching which helps.

Yep still not the same situation. That happens every year. This was an unprecedented neutral field situation that everyone (especially the NFL and Bills fans) acted too much like it was sure thing to happen. My whole point was that it was a motivator, regardless. Just listen to Burrow on the field after the game. That situation did the Bills no favors.

I get that, but this situation, unlike the usual situation of selling playoff tickets, was not handled in the best way.