shrader Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, That Aud Smell said: There are plenty of lawyers out there who can't string a sentence together. That letter-statement-press-release was very unimpressive work product. And as a result, it's natural to think that she might be facing an uphill battle with that legal representation. But anyway, you know things are incredibly messed up already when the victim is quickly getting statements out there through a lawyer. I'm not sure which came out first since I'm seeing them at pretty much the same time, the police statement or the lawyer's statement. These women probably hurt their case right off the bat by throwing the accusations at McCoy online immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: There are plenty of lawyers out there who can't string a sentence together. That letter-statement-press-release was very unimpressive work product. To the first sentence: Some of them are on this board. ? Some of them especially can't after a few drinks. ? To the second sentence: It was a piece of trash statement that appeared more to be arguments in the court of public opinion rather than a court of law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, LTS said: It was a piece of trash statement that appeared more to be arguments in the court of public opinion rather than a court of law. Well, yeah, for sure. I don't have any problem with lawyers in their position putting out a press release that's designed to bring extreme pressure to bear on their client's opponent. For a public figure like McCoy, that sort of stuff can be far more effective, and expeditious, than slogging through the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, LTS said: To the first sentence: Some of them are on this board. ? Some of them especially can't after a few drinks. ? To the second sentence: It was a piece of trash statement that appeared more to be arguments in the court of public opinion rather than a court of law. What are sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Eleven said: What are sentence. Did you start with the bottle today? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, LTS said: Did you start with the bottle today? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Pacman Jones doing Pacman Jones things and knocking out people in airports. To be fair the guy instigated it and attacked him first, so I'm on Pacman's side on this one https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1017076535243788288 22 minutes ago, carpandean said: This gif is amazing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 McCoy's son's mother is saying that the child abuse allegation is bs: https://imgur.com/OrSRNGh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, Eleven said: McCoy's son's mother is saying that the child abuse allegation is bs: https://imgur.com/OrSRNGh Lol at her getting called out for being biased because she gets a hefty child support payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Eleven said: McCoy's son's mother is saying that the child abuse allegation is bs: https://imgur.com/OrSRNGh Probably a big part of why the lawyer told the woman to remove the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, shrader said: Probably a big part of why the lawyer told the woman to remove the post. I doubt that has anything to do with it. It was removed well before her follow up, and there's two conflicting claims so who knows who is telling the truth. McCoy's lawyer is Ray Lewis' lawyer from the double-murder case, and he was also a part of Big Ben's legal team back in 2010. Edited July 11, 2018 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, Hoss said: I doubt that has anything to do with it. It was removed well before her follow up, and there's two conflicting claims so who knows who is telling the truth. By "her follow up" do you mean the lawyer? Anyway, if you are going to throw a laundry list of accusations like that out at someone, every single one better be completely air tight or else you introduce doubt into the equation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, shrader said: By "her follow up" do you mean the lawyer? Anyway, if you are going to throw a laundry list of accusations like that out at someone, every single one better be completely air tight or else you introduce doubt into the equation. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Marcel Dareus continues to cover himself in glory: https://deadspin.com/jaguars-dt-marcell-dareus-has-been-accused-of-sexual-as-1827574312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Why does the NFL have to suck. NBA offseason is just a reality TV show. MLB and NHL? Just big free agents and trades. NFL? Drugs, domestic abuse, sexual assaults...every year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, WildCard said: Why does the NFL have to suck. NBA offseason is just a reality TV show. MLB and NHL? Just big free agents and trades. NFL? Drugs, domestic abuse, sexual assaults...every year too. I always attribute the NFL's problems to a gladiator complex. These guys are trained all their lives to be these hyper-competitive tough, physical athletes and then the public is surprised that they have a hard time acting civilly in the off-season. I'm not trying to make excuses for objectively horrible behavior, but when you train yourself to be an indestructible bada$$ the odds are some of that attitude will make a handful of NFL'ers feel like the rules don't apply to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, WildCard said: Why does the NFL have to suck. NBA offseason is just a reality TV show. MLB and NHL? Just big free agents and trades. NFL? Drugs, domestic abuse, sexual assaults...every year too. I think a tiny part of it is sheer size of the league- much bigger sample pool. There's a good 30 for 30 doc (called Broke I think) about pro athletes going broke post career- you only have 1-3 years in the league on average, and a lot of the people who make it come from rather impoverished backgrounds (versus hockey/baseball)- so they don't use it wisely, they don't invest, they don't go to school, and they take part in the big money player culture. And that culture is all about the ice, babes, and partying. And they're young dudes. And sh!t happens in places where sh!tty people congregate. Think that culture overflows into the team element sometimes. But that's only part of it I'm sure. Tale as old as time, but our culture actually sort of cares now, and you hear about it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, josie said: I think a tiny part of it is sheer size of the league- much bigger sample pool. There's a good 30 for 30 doc (called Broke I think) about pro athletes going broke post career- you only have 1-3 years in the league on average, and a lot of the people who make it come from rather impoverished backgrounds (versus hockey/baseball)- so they don't use it wisely, they don't invest, they don't go to school, and they take part in the big money player culture. And that culture is all about the ice, babes, and partying. And they're young dudes. And sh!t happens in places where sh!tty people congregate. Think that culture overflows into the team element sometimes. But that's only part of it I'm sure. Tale as old as time, but our culture actually sort of cares now, and you hear about it more. The lifestyle and going broke I get, but that's applicable to every sport. Thought about the sample size, but it's always the big name guys that are doing this in the NFL. It's never some dude off the practice squad, it's always some Pro Bowler or key piece to a team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, WildCard said: The lifestyle and going broke I get, but that's applicable to every sport. Thought about the sample size, but it's always the big name guys that are doing this in the NFL. It's never some dude off the practice squad, it's always some Pro Bowler or key piece to a team At least that we hear of... Yeah I don't know. It's bullsh!t and awful. Egos? The meanest dude makes it to the top? CTE? Culture? Probably a million thinkpieces out there on it, no real answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, josie said: At least that we hear of... Yeah I don't know. It's bullsh!t and awful. Egos? The meanest dude makes it to the top? CTE? Culture? Probably a million thinkpieces out there on it, no real answer. My dad thinks it's steroids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, WildCard said: My dad thinks it's steroids Fair bet. I'd believe it. Probably a combo of a lot of things. Steroid power trip violence ticks a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, WildCard said: Why does the NFL have to suck. NBA offseason is just a reality TV show. MLB and NHL? Just big free agents and trades. NFL? Drugs, domestic abuse, sexual assaults...every year too. I think it's highly representative of the socio-economic surroundings they come from. A large proportion of NFL players come from areas where this behavior is the norm and it's all they've known. They may have money but that, unfortunately, does not change what they know. 6 minutes ago, Samson's Flow said: I always attribute the NFL's problems to a gladiator complex. These guys are trained all their lives to be these hyper-competitive tough, physical athletes and then the public is surprised that they have a hard time acting civilly in the off-season. I'm not trying to make excuses for objectively horrible behavior, but when you train yourself to be an indestructible bada$$ the odds are some of that attitude will make a handful of NFL'ers feel like the rules don't apply to them. I'm sure it plays into it. The key factors to me? Most players know they only get a few short years in the league. They've worked so hard that they want to live the lifestyle. So they do it. Living the lifestyle means they attract some unsavory people (if they weren't there all along). They are protective of their lifestyle and don't want to let it go. They are already likely making deficient decisions due to years of minor to major head trauma. It's all a very bad cocktail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 While I agree that the other factors mentioned upthread are relevant, I also think football simply attracts more sociopaths than the other sports do, probably because (i) of the violent nature of the game and (ii) more young kids with violent tendencies are funneled into football. For the record, I think most football players do not fit that description -- I just think a higher percentage fit that description than is found in other sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 I bet brain damage contributes as well. These guys have been playing through the worst concussions pretty much their whole lives. Nothing destroys the brain like football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, nfreeman said: While I agree that the other factors mentioned upthread are relevant, I also think football simply attracts more sociopaths than the other sports do, probably because (i) of the violent nature of the game and (ii) more young kids with violent tendencies are funneled into football. For the record, I think most football players do not fit that description -- I just think a higher percentage fit that description than is found in other sports. Yeah, I've definitely heard the storyline "get him into football to straighten him out, get some aggression out on the other team, he'll grow out of it" except they're not grown by the time they hit draft age... champion that fire and in the wrong guy, you've got a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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