Crusader1969 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 It's becoming more of a "when" than an "if" Kane is traded. Id definitely want a 1st rounder with the trade for RHN. NHL ready prospects sounds great but how many teams are a in a win now mode and willing to give up their top prospect or two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 I think we should just resign him. If he is not on the team next year we will be back in the lottery again. We can not afford to lose our best players. I doubt he will sign for less than 50 million. We just have to figure out how to dump some bad contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Imo Kane won't re-sign here. I believe he's committed to going to ufa and signing with a team who is playoff bound, not one in the middle of a rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Exactly, you can't force him to resign. Looks like we've been burnt with the KO and Moulson contracts. Maybe there is a lesson here? Kane will be 27 by the start of next season, how many more years does he have in his prime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Exactly, you can't force him to resign. Looks like we've been burnt with the KO and Moulson contracts. Maybe there is a lesson here? Kane will be 27 by the start of next season, how many more years does he have in his prime? Moulson and Pommers end following next season should begin to ease the pain, if they aren't moved. But that Okposo contract.......yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Exactly, you can't force him to resign. Looks like we've been burnt with the KO and Moulson contracts. Maybe there is a lesson here? Kane will be 27 by the start of next season, how many more years does he have in his prime? Yep. I’ll take RNH. He’s younger, he’ll be cheaper long-term, make a perfect compliment to this group and likely be a productive. He has 3 50+ pt seasons, compared to Kane’s 1. Kane is a better goal scorer, obviously. Getting Hopkins, might allow us to trade Sam for a D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Hate talking about "fantasy"trades but since this one was brought up in The Hockey News I've been thinking more and more about it Here is you ur 2018 forwards: Girgensons Eichel. Reinhart Mittelstadt. ROR KO Nylander RNH. Bailey Baptiste. Larsson Pommers I certainly think it's a huge improvement to this years team Edited November 13, 2017 by Crusader1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 I'd do Kane for RNH and a 1st any day of the week. Mainly because that would give us a pair of nice trade chips. We could turn around and trade RNH for Faulk or another Dman and still be up a 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 I'd do Kane for RNH and a 1st any day of the week. Mainly because that would give us a pair of nice trade chips. We could turn around and trade RNH for Faulk or another Dman and still be up a 1st Why on earth would Edmonton, and then Carolina, do that? Do you really think we can turn UFA rental Kane into a first round pick and Justin Faulk, who has is warts but would be our best defenseman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Why on earth would Edmonton, and then Carolina, do that? Do you really think we can turn UFA rental Kane into a first round pick and Justin Faulk, who has is warts but would be our best defenseman? Just working off what was talked about above. Cut the 1st and it actually would have merit. Kane saves Edmonton from caphell from McD, RNH is a C that Carolina is looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 13, 2017 Report Share Posted November 13, 2017 Stay away from RNH. We already have a culture of losing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Important contract extension signed tonight by Atkinson https://www.jacketscannon.com/2017/11/16/16668686/cam-atkinson-signs-contract-extension 7 years $40.25 mill. $5.75 per season Atkinson and Kane are same age but Cam had a big year last year but other years the numbers are similar. Would you offer the same to Kane? The avg salary seems fine to me and the Sabres should be able to afford it even if worst case scenario they have to buy out Moulson (rather than trade him). Term kinda scares me - would love to go 5 years but would you have to go to $7mill per? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 According to Bob McKenzie a lot of teams are looking for a top 6 forward right now so the market might be there to negotiate something decent for our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickompositör72 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Eichel and Botterill will convince Kane to stay, if he hasn't already decided he wants to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 JBot at the GM's meeting, wonder if Kane's name comes up? He may get an early feel for the market. I think if he doesn't want to sign him, he needs to move him before the deadline. There is an elevated risk of an injury, given Kane's history, the longer he waits. An earlier move can also lead to a hockey trade instead of a deadline dump for draft picks. A lot of teams are tight to the cap, making a trade difficult, but a willing partner can find a way. As I said, the key is if there is interest in an extension in Buffalo or a desire to hit the bright lights of UFA status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 That Cam Atkinson deal is an excellent comparable. Seven years is scary though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 If we are trading Kane, we should trade him now. He's already going to fetch little, being a rental. That's exacerbated the longer Botterill waits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Hate to say it but what if you sign Kane for say 6-7/ml then you have a lot tied up in four players long term. Big gamble because if they don't produce big time you're in bad shape for the next decade. We may already be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Last night, Kane was the only one on the team that looked like he knows how to play hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Last night, Kane was the only one on the team that looked like he knows how to play hockey. Im convinced that Kane is a better example of what we want going forward than any of our young guns. He always shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Last year, I was of the opinion that I would be fine with the trading Kane. However, the more I watch him, the more I hope he won't be moved and, if need be...they 'overplay' him to keep him here. Why? To me, he is the BEST player on the team to watch. I know Eichel has the big name and he is the superstar...but if I had no idea where people were drafted or what their pedigree was (or what expectations they had) and just watched the games....BY FAR he is the best reason to watch this team. Rarely does a shift go by where he doesn't jump out of the screen and his play is very evident. Now, I don't know if he plays the system the right way or not...I don't know if he is a good or bad guy in the locker room...and I guess those things matter a lot toward winning. But as far as an entertainment product goes..I'm going to be very unhappy the day he gets traded away or they let him walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Last night, Kane was the only one on the team that looked like he knows how to play hockey. Contract year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Contract year Agree. I think he is bad for Jack and since we are in last with him, we can be last without him. Trade him while his value is high. We need the assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Kane played like this last year and the year before too, it's not because it's a contract year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Last night, Kane was the only one on the team that looked like he knows how to play hockey. Im convinced that Kane is a better example of what we want going forward than any of our young guns. He always shows up. Kane played like this last year and the year before too, it's not because it's a contract year. These are all correct. Kane is what the Sabres have been lacking for a very long time. Probably since Gare. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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