Thorny Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Yes, the deadline market has been turning the other way for a while now. I think Murray found that out the hard way. Last year a number of teams tried to move bodies and were left holding on to them as prices dropped at the deadline rather than going up like in the past. cap issues are certainly a factor, but probably the younger GMs have more build from your own system mentalities now. It's one of the main reasons I would consider keeping Kane as our own "rental" should we find ourselves in the playoff hunt, and still not looking to sign Kane long-term. Deadline hauls for rentals have decreased, and I'd probably rather have Kane for a stretch run than say, a 2nd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 If we are in the playoff hunt. If not, I would try to move him about a month before the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 A Kane + ? for Tavares would be something I'd be most interested in. Plus what, Eichel? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Moulson - lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Roy for Malkin, Part 2: Kane for Tavares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Yes, the deadline market has been turning the other way for a while now. I think Murray found that out the hard way. Last year a number of teams tried to move bodies and were left holding on to them as prices dropped at the deadline rather than going up like in the past. cap issues are certainly a factor, but probably the younger GMs have more build from your own system mentalities now. Last year had a huge anomaly in the expansion draft. There is somethings to consider, the top 8 teams league wide on the list has stabilized for the most part and their management teams aren't really making any commitments outside of deadline rentals as they all appear comfortable with their cores. Bubble teams, that 9 - 16 league wide range, they are looking for the Kane type players. They don't have to wait for an extension and pay less because of that. Plus a Kane type player may propel them a bit in the playoff picture. The bottom 14 teams I fully expect interested in Reinhart type deals. We should see some loosening of the tight market on moves exampled above now that the expansion draft has come and gone. As for Buffalo, don't expect Moulson or Okposo to move. Pegulas are firmly committed to showing the league that the Sabres organization respects the players wishes, further making Buffalo an appealing destination. The winning will come in time, the culture and environment surrounding the organization is already well underway and has been for some time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Don’t players want to play for a winner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Don’t players want to play for a winner? some do, really depends on the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Apparently Vancouver still seriously wants Kane. They have talked. No word on how far apart that is or if it is serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Apparently Vancouver still seriously wants Kane. They have talked. No word on how far apart that is or if it is serious.Brock mother f##k8ng Boeser!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Brock mother f##k8ng Boeser!!! As someone who lives in that market, the fans would riot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 As someone who lives in that market, the fans would riot A bit on the nose there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 A bit on the nose there... I'll show myself out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Ben Hutton is the Vancouver name bandied about as part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 As someone who lives in that market, the fans would riot I've been rioting ever since we traded Boeser for Lehner (which is what we effectively did). Ben Hutton is the Vancouver name bandied about as part of it. ... along with their first? Because Ben Hutton doesn't move the needle much for me if at all. Ben Hutton would be part of the cash dump vancouver does to make it work and nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 WGR 550Verified account @WGR550 now17 seconds ago More Dreger - Kane is playing really well right now. Unless there is an offer that blows him away, Botterill is content with keeping Kane for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 WGR 550Verified account @WGR550 now17 seconds agoMore Dreger - Kane is playing really well right now. Unless there is an offer that blows him away, Botterill is content with keeping Kane for now it, why not. One of what? 4 players actually doing anything? Might have to flip flop hard here and jump on the keep him wagon. Though with how bad our defense is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) I fear and dread Botto will hang onto Kane then we lose him to UFA next summer and get absolutely nothing for him like we did with both drury and Biere. Losing those two and getting nothing back still haunts this team. Imagine the return we could have got for those two at the trade deadline. We absolutely must either resign or trade Kane. Trading him will leave this lineup with a huge hole to fill but we should be able to get a good return. I prefer signing but that maybe not doable nor may kane wish to sign here (kinda couldn;t blame him if he didn't)... Edited November 3, 2017 by Sabre fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Here's the thing with Kane that nobody talks about: he is playing well, in the role he wants, with teammates he seems to have pretty good relationships with. He knows what it's like to be in the opposite situation. I think he's very open to staying. Here's the other thing. Botterill is an asset manager. He is not going to sign him to a stupid contract and he is not going to let him walk if he could acquire assets instead. I think he's traded because Botterill will decide he doesn't want to invest market value and Kane won't offer him a discount. If the Sabres somehow are in the playoff race at the deadline, that will complicate things considerably. Edited November 3, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 ###### it, why not. One of what? 4 players actually doing anything? Might have to flip flop hard here and jump on the keep him wagon. Though with how bad our defense is... Don’t do it. Stand your ground. Here's the thing with Kane that nobody talks about: he is playing well, in the role he wants, with teammates he seems to have pretty good relationships with. He knows what it's like to be in the opposite situation. I think he's very open to staying. Here's the other thing. Botterill is an asset manager. He is not going to sign him to a stupid contract and he is not going to let him walk if he could acquire assets instead. I think he's traded because Botterill will decide he doesn't want to invest market value and can won't offer him a discount. If the Sabres somehow are in the playoff race at the deadline, that will complicate things considerably. I think this is the deal in a nutshell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'd bring back Evander. If I could shed Moulson and bring back Kane I would, but I don't know if that's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickompositör72 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I think Kane has a higher ceiling than people think. I think he is coach-able by someone like Housley (with a system that fits his game), and his awareness of his line-mates is improving. And him and Eichel are friends, off-the-ice. I think he's grown up and out of all of his past "issues," and he's going to mature as a player because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Kane was terrific in the half of the AZ game that I saw (which was the good half) and has had a very strong year so far. If his teammates like him and if he works hard in practice -- neither of which we have any idea about -- I want to keep him. Here's a question: would the Sabres offer Kane $7.5MM x 4 years? And would Kane take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Kane was terrific in the half of the AZ game that I saw (which was the good half) and has had a very strong year so far. If his teammates like him and if he works hard in practice -- neither of which we have any idea about -- I want to keep him. Here's a question: would the Sabres offer Kane $7.5MM x 4 years? And would Kane take it? In answer to your questions ... Yes. And yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Kane was terrific in the half of the AZ game that I saw (which was the good half) and has had a very strong year so far. If his teammates like him and if he works hard in practice -- neither of which we have any idea about -- I want to keep him. Here's a question: would the Sabres offer Kane $7.5MM x 4 years? And would Kane take it? I'm not sure if the Sabres would offer it, but I think Kane would take it. Lines him up for another good contract. And I'm pretty sure I'd rather pay him that contract than something like $6m x7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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