LTS Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 I agree, to a point. Two things that need to be considered. Take the bottom 7-8 teams in attendance and most of them have ticket discounts days before a game that isn't selling well. When the new onwer came in he said that was going to end because he said it wasn't fair to fans that paid full price to be sitting next to somebody that paid half as much. When you're a non-playoff team, that will make a considerable impact on the attendance numbers. Also, the Panthers have had pretty good attendance in the past when they had good teams. 2011-12 when they won the division and even the following year when they unloaded all the guys that got them there, the attendance was middle of the pack. All while the typical low attendance teams were still near the bottom. This is supposed to be the year the Panthers break through from their long rebuild. I want to wait and see how the attendance turns out by the end of the year before deciding whether or not the Panthers should stay or not. Viola also owns Sunrise Sports and Entertainment group, if he leaves he takes all the arena events with him which leaves the county with an empty arena. Well.. that's just worse if you ask me. If he owns everything happening in the arena then you'd think he'd want as many people in there as possible. The cost of putting a fan in a seat has to be minimal in a venue like that. A few extra security guards, a few extra ushers, a few extra people to clean up. An empty seat generates zero revenue, in ticket sales or concessions. Fair or not, you need butts in the seats. With no one there it has to be hard to even keep the team break even. If people don't start showing up the NHL will put pressure on them to move as it looks horrible for the league to have highlights of a team with empty seats everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Well.. that's just worse if you ask me. If he owns everything happening in the arena then you'd think he'd want as many people in there as possible. The cost of putting a fan in a seat has to be minimal in a venue like that. A few extra security guards, a few extra ushers, a few extra people to clean up. An empty seat generates zero revenue, in ticket sales or concessions. Fair or not, you need butts in the seats. With no one there it has to be hard to even keep the team break even. If people don't start showing up the NHL will put pressure on them to move as it looks horrible for the league to have highlights of a team with empty seats everywhere. I'm wondering if they already got pressure from the NHL when the NHL approved Viola as the new owner. I'm sure the NHL would rather see increased season tickets sales and it sounds like that's what Viola was trying to accomplish. If you're offering tickets at highly discounted rates, what's the sense in buying season tickets? By getting rid of the discounts season ticket sles doubled for this year with a 90% renewal rate from last year. They've made some big improvements at the arena this year. I want to wait a year before I pass judgement. It's a pivotal year for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) http://www.thescore.com/news/847667 Pitkanen says he is close to returning to form, hard to imagine him coming back from this type of injury though. Completely fractured his heel bone. Was wondering what happened to him, damn that looked bad. Edited October 19, 2015 by Huckleberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 And that, my fellow posters, is why we have and love hybrid icing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 An all-time miss from Sedin numero 22 https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/655942039620587521 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm wondering if they already got pressure from the NHL when the NHL approved Viola as the new owner. I'm sure the NHL would rather see increased season tickets sales and it sounds like that's what Viola was trying to accomplish. If you're offering tickets at highly discounted rates, what's the sense in buying season tickets? By getting rid of the discounts season ticket sles doubled for this year with a 90% renewal rate from last year. They've made some big improvements at the arena this year. I want to wait a year before I pass judgement. It's a pivotal year for the team. Appreciate the insight on the season ticket sales. It'll be interesting to see where it goes. I'm not doubting that ownership has a short time frame to turn it around (1 year?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I really like seeing Dylan Larkin do so well. USA hockey has 3 good centers coming up (him, Eich, and Auston) which has always seemed to be a weak spot. Also, it makes me feel better about Murray, who wanted to use the 3 seconds in 2014 to go up and grab him, a move that might have horrified me at the time, but now would have been a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I really like seeing Dylan Larkin do so well. USA hockey has 3 good centers coming up (him, Eich, and Auston) which has always seemed to be a weak spot. Also, it makes me feel better about Murray, who wanted to use the 3 seconds in 2014 to go up and grab him, a move that might have horrified me at the time, but now would have been a steal. Larkin and Fasching were a fun pairing to watch at the WJC. Glad to see Larkin continue to ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I just wish he was balling for us. Can you imagine Larkin Eichel and Kane? Da truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm a little confused. Shouldn't it be pucking for us? Kind of roles of the tongue in a special way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I was a little curious to see where the standings were at this time last year to see how much we can get from the first two weeks (just under). Fourteen of the sixteen playoff teams held a playoff spot at this point last season (Blue Jackets over Rangers, Kings and Sharks over Blues and Jets). Three of the bottom five teams in the standings finished in the bottom five (the Rangers and Avs were the two that didn't). The year before: Eleven of the sixteen playoff teams held a spot. Two of the bottom five teams in the standings finished there (two of the other three made the playoffs). Edited October 20, 2015 by Hoss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Appreciate the insight on the season ticket sales. It'll be interesting to see where it goes. I'm not doubting that ownership has a short time frame to turn it around (1 year?). Take it for what it's worth, I'm not sure how many season tickets were sold last year. This is the year of their rebuild where anything less than making the playoffs is unacceptable. Could be a long offseason if it doesn't happen...... for the team and the status of the organization in SoFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 @MarkLazerus: Duncan Keith out 4-6 weeks after having surgery to repair a right meniscal tear, #Blackhawks announce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 @MarkLazerus: Duncan Keith out 4-6 weeks after having surgery to repair a right meniscal tear, #Blackhawks announce. Huge loss for them. They were struggling as is too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Curtis Glencross retires http://thehockeywriters.com/curtis-glencross-announces-retirement/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Not a bad career at all. Curtis Glencross Left Wing Born Dec 28 1982 -- Kindersley, SASK Height 6.01 -- Weight 200 -- Shoots L --- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ---- Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2000-01 Brooks Bandits AJHL 60 23 22 45 113 2001-02 Brooks Bandits AJHL 53 42 26 68 163 2002-03 U. of Alaska-Anchorage WCHA 35 11 12 23 79 2003-04 U. of Alaska-Anchorage WCHA 37 21 13 34 79 2003-04 Cincinnati Mighty Ducks AHL 7 2 1 3 6 9 1 6 7 10 2004-05 Cincinnati Mighty Ducks AHL 51 6 3 9 63 12 2 0 2 10 2005-06 Portland Pirates AHL 41 15 10 25 85 19 4 6 10 37 2006-07 Portland Pirates AHL 31 6 10 16 74 -- -- -- -- -- 2006-07 Anaheim Ducks NHL 2 1 0 1 2 -- -- -- -- -- 2006-07 Syracuse Crunch AHL 29 19 16 35 53 -- -- -- -- -- 2006-07 Columbus Blue Jackets NHL 7 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- 2007-08 Columbus Blue Jackets NHL 36 6 6 12 25 -- -- -- -- -- 2007-08 Edmonton Oilers NHL 26 9 4 13 28 -- -- -- -- -- 2008-09 Calgary Flames NHL 74 13 27 40 42 6 0 3 3 12 2009-10 Calgary Flames NHL 67 15 18 33 58 -- -- -- -- -- 2010-11 Calgary Flames NHL 79 24 19 43 59 -- -- -- -- -- 2011-12 Calgary Flames NHL 67 26 22 48 62 -- -- -- -- -- 2012-13 Calgary Flames NHL 40 15 11 26 18 -- -- -- -- -- 2013-14 Calgary Flames NHL 38 12 12 24 12 -- -- -- -- -- 2014-15 Calgary Flames NHL 53 9 19 28 39 -- -- -- -- -- 2014-15 Washington Capitals NHL 18 4 3 7 6 10 1 0 1 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NHL Totals 507 134 141 275 351 16 1 3 4 14 Edited October 20, 2015 by X. Benedict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Great nickname, too. Glengarry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Fun fact, Jakub Voracek only has one even strength goal since late-December 2014. Not sure how he managed to finish top five in scoring last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 @MarkLazerus: Duncan Keith out 4-6 weeks after having surgery to repair a right meniscal tear, #Blackhawks announce.Oh that hurts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Blues' Bouwmeester just had a goal called off because it hit the curved glass by the bench rather than the flat pane around the rest of the rink. Rule introduced after glass at benches modified in aftermath of Chara Pacioretty incident. 1st time I'd seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Blues' Bouwmeester just had a goal called off because it hit the curved glass by the bench rather than the flat pane around the rest of the rink. Rule introduced after glass at benches modified in aftermath of Chara Pacioretty incident. 1st time I'd seen that. Whaaaaaat. So was it out of play then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Whaaaaaat. So was it out of play then?That's what the refs ruled after Price went behind the net to play what he thought was going around the boards but instead the puck went into the newly vacated net. They made the right call but, it seemed like the refs/linesmen would have let the play continue if it didn't go right into the net. Weird play. Expect it happens more often (coming back into play off the curved glass, not into the net from there) but hadn't noticed it since curved glass went in. Edited October 21, 2015 by Taro T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Phillsbury scored a goal in which he knocked the puck down with a high stick before knocking it into the net. They had already overruled a Panthers goal earlier in the game that should have stood, this time Gallant was trying to get the refs attention because he wanted a challenge. Instead of doing so the refs rushed the start of play by dropping the puck before the Panthers even had somebody in the faceoff circle. Gallant was pissed! https://www.dropbox.com/s/las9dcfrvxcv22l/20151020_231813.wmv?dl=0 Here's the bench view during that same faceoff. https://www.dropbox.com/s/awax8sffr1ca7hb/20151020_231947.wmv?dl=0 Blues' Bouwmeester just had a goal called off because it hit the curved glass by the bench rather than the flat pane around the rest of the rink.Rule introduced after glass at benches modified in aftermath of Chara Pacioretty incident. 1st time I'd seen that. I've never heard that before. I'm surprised this is the first time it's been mentioned. Edited October 21, 2015 by JJFIVEOH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I've never heard that before. I'm surprised this is the first time it's been mentioned. It's probably the first time it ever has happened. They are very small curved panes and they haven't been around for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Phillsbury scored a goal in which he knocked the puck down with a high stick before knocking it into the net. They had already overruled a Panthers goal earlier in the game that should have stood, this time Gallant was trying to get the refs attention because he wanted a challenge. Instead of doing so the refs rushed the start of play by dropping the puck before the Panthers even had somebody in the faceoff circle. Gallant was pissed! https://www.dropbox.com/s/las9dcfrvxcv22l/20151020_231813.wmv?dl=0 Here's the bench view during that same faceoff. https://www.dropbox.com/s/awax8sffr1ca7hb/20151020_231947.wmv?dl=0 Wow, a professional sports league ignoring/bending their own replay rules to benefit one team over another and/or to cover up their own incompetence? That never happens! Hopefully the Panthers make a bunch of noise about that to the league (not that it will do any good). The on ice officials literally ignored them and did what they could to ensure that there was no review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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