Thwomp! Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well they far exceeded their low bar. The NHL has been playing the "long game". They're not incompetent. :p Hopefully Zac Rinaldo thinks twice about running Lehner or Eichel this season. If the Sharks aren't an MFT, then Rinaldo may be fine :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 From what I understand he wasn't a repeat offender for the basis of fines, but that isn't necessarily applied to suspensions. That's how I read the tweets about it anyway. It specifically mentions suspensions in the CBA. I love that the league did it, but I get the feeling that they'll lose this one on appeal Tom Brady style. (d) status as a "first" or "repeat" offender shall be re-determined every eighteen (18) months on a rolling basis. For example, where a Player is suspended for the first time, he becomes a repeat offender if he is suspended again within eighteen (18) months of the first incident. If he does not have another suspension within eighteen (18) months of the first incident, his next suspension will be treated as a "first" offense. Then again, the wording there seems a bit off to me, the way they use the whole "first offense" term. With this wording, it seems like someone who was suspended 3 times within 18 months, only the first of those three could ever be counted as the "first" offense. I'm overanalyzing I'm sure, their intent is clear, but I'd say they wrote it poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 It specifically mentions suspensions in the CBA. I love that the league did it, but I get the feeling that they'll lose this one on appeal Tom Brady style. Then again, the wording there seems a bit off to me, the way they use the whole "first offense" term. With this wording, it seems like someone who was suspended 3 times within 18 months, only the first of those three could ever be counted as the "first" offense. I'm overanalyzing I'm sure, their intent is clear, but I'd say they wrote it poorly. This is all I've got: Eric Macramalla @EricOnSportsLaw 14m14 minutes ago On Raffi Torres, "Repeat Offender" status under NHL CBA relates only to compensation and not to length of suspension... Eric Macramalla @EricOnSportsLaw 13m13 minutes ago ...which means NHL can rely on player history even if last violation is outside 18 month window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Montreal GM on Kassian: "“I’m a firm believer in character, and that’s really a lack of character and judgment on his part.” Wait, how so? The guy was a passenger in a car where the woman may have been drinking and all reports indicate that the police are waiting on blood tests to see if she was. I'm going to put it out there and say that if she was visibly drunk, they wouldn't need to wait on the blood test. So what, exactly, did Kassian do wrong here that reflects on his character and judgment? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/zack-kassian-montreal-canadiens-car-crash-1.3257148 Blood Alcohol Level probably comes into play in determining the degree of the charge, and also is easier to convict on than visual sobriety test I would guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Montreal GM on Kassian: "“I’m a firm believer in character, and that’s really a lack of character and judgment on his part.” Wait, how so? The guy was a passenger in a car where the woman may have been drinking and all reports indicate that the police are waiting on blood tests to see if she was. I'm going to put it out there and say that if she was visibly drunk, they wouldn't need to wait on the blood test. So what, exactly, did Kassian do wrong here that reflects on his character and judgment? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/zack-kassian-montreal-canadiens-car-crash-1.3257148 Choosing to get into a vehicle driven by a woman he knew to be drunk? drug use on the cusp of the season? There are a couple character and judgement related decisions there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Raffi Torres is a dirty SOB. link to the video and explanation, I really like when they start listing his history. Dear god he is terrible. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=781798 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What is an MFT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR HOLLIDAY Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=781798&navid=nhl:topheads NHL getting tough on this scumbag, years to late IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What is an MFT? Most Favored Team. (Rags, Canadiens, Leafs, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Most Favored Team. (Rags, Canadiens, Leafs, etc.)Ah thanks. Yeah no way are SJ a MFT in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Raffi Torres is a dirty SOB. link to the video and explanation, I really like when they start listing his history. Dear god he is terrible. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=781798 Once again the league continues to ignore......wait....what.......41 games? Yes. Wow. :beer: That sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 And the biggest news of the day! http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/39641/jaromir-jagr-bringing-back-the-mullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 And that's without deeming him a repeat offender? Wowza. And, yeah. Way to get it right. New cba language. That hit was dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 New cba language. That hit was dirty. There was a reference to the hit being .8 seconds after loosing possession being a reason the hit was illegal. Is this part of the new language? I work to bargain and support a cba so I am particularly interested in the wording. For the sake of curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 So what, exactly, did Kassian do wrong here that reflects on his character and judgment? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/zack-kassian-montreal-canadiens-car-crash-1.3257148 I think its clear we aren't privy to the juicy facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Torres is a cretin and got what he deserved. Actually for Torres to concuss himself on that hit would have been nice. Hate that douchbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcsaberks Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Help me out here. Kassian is wasted, but a passenger in a car wreck, and he's suspended indefinitely. O'Reilly is the driver, and wasted, and he's cool? Is that right? If "drugs!" is weed, this is messed. If coke or whatever, ok, but wtf is Kassian thinking a: admitting to use, or b: allowing a test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 What is an MFT? Mother Fugging Trainwreck is what I came up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Most favored team. I'll believe the NHL has turned a corner on cleaning up the game when the suspensions are handed out without any favoritism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Kassian in stage 2 means he's been in the NHL's substance abuse system before, no? I was one of the guys shrugging off his dust up in a bar as a junior, but if this is strike 2 + his junior incidents........ not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 41 Game Suspension for Rafi Torres. Good job NHL GREAT job, NHL! Please do this every time these head shots happen from now until the end of time. It'll make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I like except zamboni instead of lawnmower. You missed an easy one there! :) Zamboni as a lawn mower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Are we sure Kassian was actually the passenger in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Are we sure Kassian was actually the passenger in this? That is how it is being reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Are we sure Kassian was actually the passenger in this? Something ain't adding up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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