tom webster Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Taylor is fine. Ryan isn't. Roman, Taylor and the play calling are all a working progress and at this point aren't the problem. There are things that they just aren't asking Taylor to do yet. If he is able to develop to the next step, they will be on to something. The problem as I see it, is Rex and some of the doumbest, unaware players I have seen. Leodis' play at the end of the half is just one example. First, he plays way off a guy that shouldn't be able to run by him, then he jogs to touch him after the catch. He touches him before he goes out of bounds and the half likely ends without a kick. Thigpen realizes after the game that a fair catch at the 40 would be a good thing. Who knows if he knows that you can only run toward the line of scrimmage in the CFL. Those three plays potentially resulted in a 14 point swing and they were just dumb. Toss in approximately 6 false start and encroachment penalties, stupid coaching decisions and its amazing how close the game was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 This team was never good and if it wasn't for a delusional fan base (including myself) witnessing 16 years of crap pay football, we would have seen this right after week 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Roman, Taylor and the play calling are all a working progress and at this point aren't the problem. There are things that they just aren't asking Taylor to do yet. If he is able to develop to the next step, they will be on to something. The problem as I see it, is Rex and some of the doumbest, unaware players I have seen. Leodis' play at the end of the half is just one example. First, he plays way off a guy that shouldn't be able to run by him, then he jogs to touch him after the catch. He touches him before he goes out of bounds and the half likely ends without a kick. Thigpen realizes after the game that a fair catch at the 40 would be a good thing. Who knows if he knows that you can only run toward the line of scrimmage in the CFL. Those three plays potentially resulted in a 14 point swing and they were just dumb. Toss in approximately 6 false start and encroachment penalties, stupid coaching decisions and its amazing how close the game was. I know there were at least 4 encroachments. A good coach could do more with this team. And I really, really wanted to like Ryan. Cf. Bylsma, Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm f#ckin' pissed. This team should be better than this. Rex is hype. More thoughts- Woods sucks. He thinks he's great, but he sucks. Without Tyrod, this team is hot garbage. He makes everything happen. Once again we are subjected to BS conservative play calling on both sides of the ball (actually, on offense it was just stupid play calling) that directly lead to us losing. This sucks. Well, it was Rex who pushed Whaley to bring Taylor in, so...he gets points for that, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Well, it was Rex who pushed Whaley to bring Taylor in, so...he gets points for that, right? You just take your #fancystats and cram'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I had a philsophical discussion with a Lions fan at a bar in Key West. We brought up the question: What's worse: to be a Bills fans ( where they came within a few feet of a Super Bowl with 4 straight returns) or a Lions fan, who never even get close... What was the consensus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I know there were at least 4 encroachments. A good coach could do more with this team. And I really, really wanted to like Ryan. Cf. Bylsma, Sabres. :angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Bills seasons I have witnessed without a championship: 45 Sabres seasons I have witnessed without a championship: 42 and counting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm sorry, when it's win out or go home and you take 371 penalties and let Sam Bradford throw all over you, you've been coached poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm sorry, when it's win out or go home and you take 371 penalties and let Sam Bradford throw all over you, you've been coached poorly. Well, it's a good thing only one of these things happened today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Well, it's a good thing only one of these things happened today.Well, to be fair, I didn't actually watch much of the game, but I have to assume that since we lost to the Eagles that we let him have a decent game? Am I far off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 What was the consensus? It was close but a tie for last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Wow! Juxtaposing last night's "ESPN Films: 30 for 30: Four Falls of Buffalo" with today's performance...unreal. This 2015 squad is just plain old unlikeable. Million dollar talent but ten cent brains. I think the Pegulas need to cut their losses and fire Rex in January. He's clearly not a quality NFL head coach....emotion and bravado are ok, but not if they accompany an inability to pay attention to detail or to learn from one's mistakes. It's one lost year...let's not make it any longer than that. 16 straight seasons of no playoffs....longest streak in all 4 leagues (NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA)...holy am I pissed off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Well, to be fair, I didn't actually watch much of the game, but I have to assume that since we lost to the Eagles that we let him have a decent game? Am I far off Same old story as all season. Get the other team in 3rd and long, or a big play comes up for us on offense, and we take a penalty to make it 3rd and short or go backwards 10 yards. No pressure on the QB, but instead constantly rushing 3 guys with the highest paid DL in the league, and a LB core that is beyond inept. Not exactly a good strategy. I wonder if bringing in Pettine next year will help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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qwksndmonster Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I tried to enjoy the game, but I hate the NFL and their product so much. I was watching with my (Eagles fan) girlfriend, and when it was 20-20 I had the honest to god thought "Eh, I won't really care if the Bills win so it'd probably be better if the Eagles took this one." I guess I'm really not a Bills fan anymore. Myself from a year ago would be furious. Myself from 2 years ago wouldn't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Myself from a year ago would be furious. Myself from 2 years ago wouldn't believe it. If I didn't get off on "negotiating" with directv for free Sunday Ticket every year then I wouldn't even watch. But if I have the option to watch, I have to! It's a sickness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 TT is a flawed QB obviously..But he has potential to be a good one(not great by any means because he has just too many deficiencies). He is much better than the junk we have had for the past 15 yrs(OK that's not saying much). In the words of a certain popular individual these days. "We have stupid people running this organization." -Well maybe not--if Terryboy doesn't waste any more years with Rex. If he keeps the loud mediocre Ryan then the next 15 yrs are gonna be as sad as the previous. Not because Rex will still be here but because we will then know we have serious judgment issues at the very top . --I don't think Terry is another jerry Jones or Little Danny----But he must move quickly after the yr to dump Rex. 2 wins over Miami,one over the jets, Houston, Tennessee(barely) and a stinko Indy team at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 TT is a flawed QB obviously..But he has potential to be a good one(not great by any means because he has just too many deficiencies). He is much better than the junk we have had for the past 15 yrs(OK that's not saying much). In the words of a certain popular individual these days. "We have stupid people running this organization." -Well maybe not--if Terryboy doesn't waste any more years with Rex. If he keeps the loud mediocre Ryan then the next 15 yrs are gonna be as sad as the previous. Not because Rex will still be here but because we will then know we have serious judgment issues at the very top . --I don't think Terry is another jerry Jones or Little Danny----But he must move quickly after the yr to dump Rex. 2 wins over Miami,one over the jets, Houston, Tennessee(barely) and a stinko Indy team at home. It's laughable after everything that has happened with the Sabres (and early in his ownership of the Bills), but at that very first presser with the Sabres Terry quoted one of the Rooneys about how "panic doesn't seem to be working." The Steelers in the early days apparently had a revolving door of coaches. I imagine Terry still believes that. Also, inasmuch as he and Kim (from what I've heard) pushed for Rex over Whaley's choice, I don't think they will pull the plug after one season. Enjoy, Bills fans. Oh yeah, I'll go adjust my tinfoil hat now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Kind of off topic but it's ridiculous that the Steelers have had a total of three head coaches since 1969. The Bills have had 16 in that span. The longest time they've had three coaches for was from the middle of 1986 to 2003 (Marv from 1986-1997, Wade from 1998-2000 and Gregg Williams from 2001-2003). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 It's a relief, frankly, to see the Bills become what they are: A playoff bubble team that wouldn't have had much of a chance at all in a first round WC game. And I can't see them being much better next season. Maybe their schedule will be more favorable? Maybe. Anyway, I'm with those who see Rex as the problem. Between the defense's under-achievements and the many mental lapses, this team's mediocrity is on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Taylor is fine. Ryan isn't. I agree. Tyrod needs more control over the offense. I also think Rex meddles with the offense and honestly Rex can't run an offense for . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 What's Rex done wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 It's a relief, frankly, to see the Bills become what they are: A playoff bubble team that wouldn't have had much of a chance at all in a first round WC game. And I can't see them being much better next season. Maybe their schedule will be more favorable? Maybe. Anyway, I'm with those who see Rex as the problem. Between the defense's under-achievements and the many mental lapses, this team's mediocrity is on him. Rex yelled at the referees in the tunnel and all I could think of was, well you asshat maybe you should teach your team some discipline. What's Rex done wrong? I think we lead the league in penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 What's Rex done wrong? I trust I was supposed to hear that in Terry's voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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