stenbaro Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 10 hours ago, WildCard said: I don't know how to describe it, but Cozens just seems different to me. Better example, Josh Allen. Allen will do anything for his team to win (Eichel will too). But when Allen faces adversity he just seems to handle it a lot better than Jack does. I am really excited to watch Josh Allen grow into the best QB he can be, but so far, when all the marbles are on the ground when the games count the most (playoffs) he has made horrible decisions, he handles pressure in the playoffs horribly at this point in his career, our offense totally disappeared last season in the playoffs, if it wasn't for Philip Rivers underthrowing a wide open tight end we would have been bounced in the first round, if not for a interception return for a TD we lose to the Ravens, and we all saw the Chiefs game. The only difference between Allen and Eichel in the adversity department so far is, Allen has played in meaningful games and fallen short, Eichel hasn't even sniffed an important game in his career in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 9 hours ago, woods-racer said: Would you sum up JBotts as BPA by some sort of ranking metrics? He didn't seem to have a certain player that he was after to me. Jbott was best swede or ushl player available 37 minutes ago, stenbaro said: I am really excited to watch Josh Allen grow into the best QB he can be, but so far, when all the marbles are on the ground when the games count the most (playoffs) he has made horrible decisions, he handles pressure in the playoffs horribly at this point in his career, our offense totally disappeared last season in the playoffs, if it wasn't for Philip Rivers underthrowing a wide open tight end we would have been bounced in the first round, if not for a interception return for a TD we lose to the Ravens, and we all saw the Chiefs game. The only difference between Allen and Eichel in the adversity department so far is, Allen has played in meaningful games and fallen short, Eichel hasn't even sniffed an important game in his career in Buffalo. Allen I think led the league in 4th quarter game winning drives last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, stenbaro said: I am really excited to watch Josh Allen grow into the best QB he can be, but so far, when all the marbles are on the ground when the games count the most (playoffs) he has made horrible decisions, he handles pressure in the playoffs horribly at this point in his career, our offense totally disappeared last season in the playoffs, if it wasn't for Philip Rivers underthrowing a wide open tight end we would have been bounced in the first round, if not for a interception return for a TD we lose to the Ravens, and we all saw the Chiefs game. The only difference between Allen and Eichel in the adversity department so far is, Allen has played in meaningful games and fallen short, Eichel hasn't even sniffed an important game in his career in Buffalo. If not for an offsides against the Chiefs Brady would not have won his final ring with the Patriots. If not for a decision to pass at the one yard line he would not have won a ring against the Seahawks. If not for one of the most unlikeliest catches in league history by Edelman on a bad pass being deflected he doesn’t beat the Falcons. If not for the tuck rule he does not beat the Raiders to advance to the Super Bowl. The if game does nothing for anyone because every playoff run comes down to a few incredibly unlikely single events. Josh Allen is improving at every turn and made some damn good plays to put them not only in position to succeed but he won games when it mattered. Games matter before and during the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Thorny said: This is ridiculous. There were *several* years during that stretch we were ranked at or near the top of the system strength lists. There's so much revisionist history going on right now There where several years we where ranked there, we are ranked as an *A* draft year this year also, then reality sets in. I'm not saying they have drafted bad this year, but *experts* giving their predictions for 18 year old's is more fluff than substance to say the least. Who here believes Liger is any better/worse of an expert? Quite honestly I believe him to be more truthful and less BS-full than them. We haven't had the front office and coaching staff to make those strengths on paper make a dent in the NHL. If we did Jack and Sam wouldn't have been so surrounded by players that couldn't help this team win. Not only where the Sabres bad at drafting they where horrible at developing. It's why where are here now. There's no one person or thing about the tank that was bad, it was that they where bad at everything and one or two *generational players* wasn't going to change that. Darcy knew how bad it was, how bad it could get. Welcome to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Here are three things to consider with the current "tank": The management may have stripped top-end talent for futures, but unlike 13/15, the team will still be trying to win on the ice Unlike 13/15, this team will have a smattering of players — Dahlin, Cozens, maybe Mitts and the key Eichel return — worth watching Generally speaking, this team won't be any worse than what we've watched the past 4 years and could easily be better than last year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Consider as in those things might happen, correct? (obvious Girgensons/Reinhart caveat on point 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAud Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 15 hours ago, stenbaro said: I am really excited to watch Josh Allen grow into the best QB he can be, but so far, when all the marbles are on the ground when the games count the most (playoffs) he has made horrible decisions, he handles pressure in the playoffs horribly at this point in his career, our offense totally disappeared last season in the playoffs, if it wasn't for Philip Rivers underthrowing a wide open tight end we would have been bounced in the first round, if not for a interception return for a TD we lose to the Ravens, and we all saw the Chiefs game. The only difference between Allen and Eichel in the adversity department so far is, Allen has played in meaningful games and fallen short, Eichel hasn't even sniffed an important game in his career in Buffalo. Allen carried the Bills on his back for the Colts game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 12:16 PM, SabresVet said: In their last 10 games they were 3-7 and averaged less than 3 goals per. Expectations just need to be kept in check because it could get ugly next season. I wanted to post a feel good video, showing a win under Granato in regulation. I looked through all the games, and I don't think there was a single regulation win under Granato that did not include a Reinhart goal (and he actually had a few multigoal games). We can't whip that horse anymore. What *will* the team look like? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresVet Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, Doohickie said: I wanted to post a feel good video, showing a win under Granato in regulation. I looked through all the games, and I don't think there was a single regulation win under Granato that did not include a Reinhart goal (and he actually had a few multigoal games). We can't whip that horse anymore. What *will* the team look like? As we used to say in the Army..."embrace the suck." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 It's not a tank. It's an organization that has no idea how to build and sustain a good team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, nucci said: It's not a tank. It's an organization that has no idea how to build and sustain a good team a stank? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thwomp! said: a stank? Are you Tony Stank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Coyotes signed Carter Hutton. The Sabres have some very good tank competition if that is their plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 I'm starting to think all the bad press and comments have pissed off the Pegulas and they've decided to say F it. Torture us for a year even before selling it off. Not only tear the house down but take all the copper wiring and pipes when they leave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, woods-racer said: Coyotes signed Carter Hutton. The Sabres have some very good tank competition if that is their plan. Blatant tank Not kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: I'm starting to think all the bad press and comments have pissed off the Pegulas and they've decided to say F it. Torture us for a year even before selling it off. Not only tear the house down but take all the copper wiring and pipes when they leave. Or they're preparing to sell. Or am I just trying to be optimistic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Thorny said: Blatant tank Not kidding By embracing their tank too late they ended up with Dylan Strome in a draft that had McDavid, Eichel, & Marner. Pretty sure they're reliving the '14-'15 season w/ a do over. Fine. Let 'em have it. Really have no desire to relive '14-'15. Hopefully the Sabres don't; but depending on where Ullmark and 2nd/3rd goalies on teams that have 1-2 too many today end up; Adams might be 99% embracing a full season March of the Penguins & Devils. Flat out can't abide in it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Radar said: Or they're preparing to sell. Or am I just trying to be optimistic? Ultimately that could be it, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 So are we at the point when the question is not if Adams is tanking or not, but are they tanking intentionally or is it a result of rank incompetence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrefanday1 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 so now does anybody out there actually think or believe they are NOT tanking yet again? Mind you Arizona will give us a run for the money for sure but once we clear out Jack for a bag of hockey pucks and some stunning "prospects" we can rest assured we will finish dead last yet again. Well done KA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 And just like that, WNY has run dry of Hopium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Youth Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 The plan for next year is to use the Sabres as a loss to offset some PSE revenues for tax purposes. That’s what I infer from what’s going on. Anyone who pays for this product is a serious masochist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 I don't think tanking was the plan. But it's is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Yes. We are totally screwed now. Seasons already over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 5:11 PM, nucci said: or they are just really bad at running this franchise. Wonder if they ever plan on winning? Maybe someday they will hire a real coach and GM alike they did with the Bills. KA is not a NHL GM 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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