LGR4GM Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, pi2000 said: And if Beniers was 6'4, 215 he'd be consensus #1. But that's not the case, in this universe Power if big and has a crazy reach which he uses to his advantage to defend.... so yeah, it matters. 2 hours ago, dudacek said: This seems to be overlooked in the discussing about the value of size. It's not all about overpowering people, it's also about covering real estate, picking pockets and being hard to get around. I'm not sure I would call Power "hard to get around". Reach only matters so much and just like another big forward, once teams adjust to your reach what then? Myers effectively was neutralized after teams realized they should just play the pucks into his feet and pressure him. Edited June 11, 2021 by LGR4GM spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: I'm not sure I would call Power "hard to get around". Reach only matters so much and just like another big forward, once teams adjust to your reach what then? Myers effectively sucked after teams realized they should just play the pucks into his feet and pressure him. You don’t have to contradict every good thing said about Power. His reach is a very strong skill and several scouting reports mention that he disposes of many zone entries and offensive opportunities because of his stick play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: You don’t have to contradict every good thing said about Power. His reach is a very strong skill and several scouting reports mention that he disposes of many zone entries and offensive opportunities because of his stick play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Here's the Kent Johnson highlight package. He's a very skilled player. If you trade down, sure. The same with Eklund, who I think is just as skilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Only the Sabres can draft two defenseman 1st overall in a five year span and not get a difference maker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, pi2000 said: Kent Johnson has more skill than Beniers IMO. Beniers was the 3rd leading scorer on Michigan. I do like his game alot, but he's not a can't miss elite forward prospect... he could very easily be the next Drew Stafford or Brian Holzinger. So if Beniers could easily be the next Holzinger, can Power easily end up being the next <insert name of dman over 6’5” who ended up being a bust>? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) Just now, LabattBlue said: So if Beniers could easily be the next Holzinger, can Power easily end up being the next <insert name of dman over 6’5” who ended up being a bust>? NO His floor his higher. 🙂 Edited June 11, 2021 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sabremike Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: So if Beniers could easily be the next Holzinger, can Power easily end up being the next <insert name of dman over 6’5” who ended up being a bust>? Sir do you realize that the path to success in the NHL is by acquiring many many giraffes? Note that it rhymes with Power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, inkman said: Only the Sabres can draft two defenseman 1st overall in a five year span and not get a difference maker. Defenseman take longer to develop usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ubkev said: In other words, no ***** way I'm going to Buffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Claude Balls said: In other words, no ***** way I'm going to Buffalo Is his family loaded? Can he forego almost 4 million bucks to sit out until he graduates? Stay at Michigan for 3 more years. Come into the league as a free agent. I believe that drops his ELC to a 2 year deal, then he's an RFA for how many more years? Lol, it's fun to catastrophize.(is that a word?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, Claude Balls said: In other words, no ***** way I'm going to Buffalo Yeah he’s just saying that to scare off the Sabres. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 He has already said he would enjoy being drafted by Buffalo. He was mentioning going back to Michigan about a month ago so this isn’t anything new. It would be best for him anyways. He has things to work on and 18 year old dmen don’t fare well in the NHL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said: Defenseman take longer to develop usually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 15 hours ago, LabattBlue said: So if Beniers could easily be the next Holzinger, can Power easily end up being the next <insert name of dman over 6’5” who ended up being a bust>? Power won't bust. He's smart and works hard to tune his game. 15 hours ago, ubkev said: Smart kid. Know your weaknesses and how to fix them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 9 hours ago, inkman said: Dahlin is a bust? Ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Dahlin is a bust? Ok! Funny you should be joking about that... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Funny you should be joking about that... But not a difference maker! Right? 21 years old? Bust! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said: But not a difference maker! Right? 21 years old? Bust! I don’t hear about Heiskanen alternating the Norris trophy with Makar for the next 12 years anymore. He took a step back and may return to that path. Dahlin is ready for a breakout year offensively. He needs the HC to let him roam and pair him with a responsible partner. More puck possession time for him means fewer defensive issues. Hardly anyone remembers how bad Leetch was at defense because he was a point producing machine. I think Dahlin can be better than Leetch defensively but to blossom he needs to be a rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LGR4GM Posted June 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 As long as they develop him slowly by sending him back to Michigan, I think they'll get a good player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: As long as they develop him slowly by sending him back to Michigan, I think they'll get a good player. After one more year in college he will be ready to make the jump to the NHL and contribute immediately. That doesn't mean that he will be a top two pairing player in his first year but he will be worthy of a roster spot. (I've listened to at least three draft analysts and they all made the point that going back to school would even in the short term accelerate his development as a pro player. As you noted going back to school is the smart way to handle him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 If we do pick Power, and if he plays well enough for a call up at seasons end. How many games does he (or any other similarly positioned prospect) get before a year of ELC is burned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 14, 2021 Report Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, steveoath said: If we do pick Power, and if he plays well enough for a call up at seasons end. How many games does he (or any other similarly positioned prospect) get before a year of ELC is burned? its usually part of the deal that the 1st year of the ELC gets burnt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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