LGR4GM Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 The Hype train for Power is amazing. I have never seen anything like it to be honest. Owen Power needs some work and he's being talked about as a sure fire Hedman type of player. Also the fact he is 6'6" doesn't really matter unless that size is used as part of his game. Power uses his reach but he just isn't that physical and he gets turned around by faster smaller forwards at times. He needs refinement and thinking otherwise because he looked okay at the Worlds is asking for trouble. When they draft Power, I just hope they send him back to the NCAA so he can really develop and then we can hopefully get him to his full potential. Here is the Dreger interview, about halfway ish through is where they start talking about Power. https://omny.fm/shows/the-instigators/06-11-tsns-darren-dreger-with-the-instigators 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: This has been posted but please listen. It really is worth hearing about Power and what issues he has. "You don't want to end up in another situation where you have a Rasmus Ristolainen" He admits Power might be the best long term pick, right? Will just take him more time if he smoothes out his bad tendencies. Kept talking about not rushing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: I think he will be the 4th best D Sounds like a lot of hockey people disagree. I'm inclined to go with their assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The Sabres passing on a skilled center to add a project LHD to the pipeline because he's big and skates well is peak Sabres flawed reasoning. It's the same type of thinking that gets you Quinn instead of Rossi. That gets you Nylander instead of Sergachev. Samuelsson instead of Berggren. Laaksonen instead of Farrance. Kent Johnson has more skill than Beniers IMO. Beniers was the 3rd leading scorer on Michigan. I do like his game alot, but he's not a can't miss elite forward prospect... he could very easily be the next Drew Stafford or Brian Holzinger. Edited June 11, 2021 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: It's not going off the board. It is not buying into the hype and recency bias occurring. Power is #1 because he is 6'6". There I said what the truth is. He isn't #1 because he's the best defender (hughes probably is). He isn't #1 because he has crazy Dahlin like skill (Eklund probably is the most skilled), he isnt #1 because he has the best well rounded game (Beniers). He is #1 because the Canadian media are obsessed with him and he is big. If Owen Power were 6'3" he would not be ranked by about 70% of ppl as the first overall. And if Beniers was 6'4, 215 he'd be consensus #1. But that's not the case, in this universe Power if big and has a crazy reach which he uses to his advantage to defend.... so yeah, it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, pi2000 said: And if Beniers was 6'4, 215 he'd be consensus #1. But that's not the case, in this universe Power if big and has a crazy reach which he uses to his advantage to defend.... so yeah, it matters. This seems to be overlooked in the discussing about the value of size. It's not all about overpowering people, it's also about covering real estate, picking pockets and being hard to get around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, pi2000 said: And if Beniers was 6'4, 215 he'd be consensus #1. But that's not the case, in this universe Power if big and has a crazy reach which he uses to his advantage to defend.... so yeah, it matters. No I still wouldn't draft him Have you heard of Logan Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 He grew up a Leafs fan who came to Buffalo to watch games and thinks it would be "pretty awesome" to be drafted by the Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: No I still wouldn't draft him Have you heard of Logan Brown I have, what's your point? Lemme guess, Power will be a bust because Logan Brown was a bust? Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: No I still wouldn't draft him Have you heard of Logan Brown Have you heard of Mario Lemieux? It's about as relevant. Some big players are good, some aren't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, pi2000 said: I have, what's your point? Lemme guess, Power will be a bust because Logan Brown was a bust? Ok. You're talking about Beniers who cares about size he could be a mouse And I wouldn't care the problem Is point production and skill Edited June 11, 2021 by Buffalonill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: You're talking about Beniers who cares about size he could a mouse And I wouldn't care the problem is Is point production and skill If that's the case then Kent Johnson ranks ahead of Beniers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, pi2000 said: If that's the case then Kent Johnson ranks ahead of Beniers. What skill He's a garbage cleaner I would like to know how many secondary assistant he has and Scraps from the power play He have 17 points give or take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Per Dreger the Sabres are planning to draft Power Spoiler alert!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Per Dreger the Sabres are planning to draft Power wait no hold on, we are definitely looking to trade down! what was that about the reporters being used to funnel info? Friedman was carrying water for Jack's agent? Dreger is carrying water for Adams - Adams wants it known we are targeting Power, so teams actually have a reason to trade up to get him ie he won't be there if they don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: This team couldn't get out of their own way if they jumped from a plane. Wait can anyone get out of their own way if they jump out of a plane? I'm trying to wrap my mind around this one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: The Sabres passing on a skilled center to add a project LHD to the pipeline because he's big and skates well is peak Sabres flawed reasoning. It's the same type of thinking that gets you Quinn instead of Rossi. That gets you Nylander instead of Sergachev. Samuelsson instead of Berggren. Laaksonen instead of Farrance. Beniers will be our man, and another asset to boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thorny said: Beniers will be our man, and another asset to boot If there is another asset to be had it would tip the scales for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, dudacek said: That from Instigators this morning? If so, when I heard it, I didn't take it as inside info, more like Friedman's (paraphrase) "everyone knows Power is the best prospect, of course you are going to take him." Like it or not, truth or not, public perception that there is a consensus has arrived. 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Listening to Dreger talk about Power... he knows almost nothing about prospects holy hell. His main comment was that Power is powerful and has a big wingspan and is ready to be plugged in immediately. Just completely delusional and that isn't a bash on Power. Power needs another NCAA year to refine his game. Just so we are clear, Dreger doesn't say he knows who Buffalo is taking, he just is assuming. My Bad I was going off this Tweet 1 hour ago, dudacek said: This seems to be overlooked in the discussing about the value of size. It's not all about overpowering people, it's also about covering real estate, picking pockets and being hard to get around. The concern that is mentioned he has problems defending blueline entries and aggressive forecheckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: The Hype train for Power is amazing. I have never seen anything like it to be honest. Owen Power needs some work and he's being talked about as a sure fire Hedman type of player. Also the fact he is 6'6" doesn't really matter unless that size is used as part of his game. Power uses his reach but he just isn't that physical and he gets turned around by faster smaller forwards at times. He needs refinement and thinking otherwise because he looked okay at the Worlds is asking for trouble. When they draft Power, I just hope they send him back to the NCAA so he can really develop and then we can hopefully get him to his full potential. Here is the Dreger interview, about halfway ish through is where they start talking about Power. https://omny.fm/shows/the-instigators/06-11-tsns-darren-dreger-with-the-instigators I still want Beniers over him, I would be okay with Power. This team needs so much it's not even funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Here's the Kent Johnson highlight package. He's a very skilled player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: This team couldn't get out of their own way if they jumped from a plane. They could be right you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: The Hype train for Power is amazing. I have never seen anything like it to be honest. Owen Power needs some work and he's being talked about as a sure fire Hedman type of player. Also the fact he is 6'6" doesn't really matter unless that size is used as part of his game. Power uses his reach but he just isn't that physical and he gets turned around by faster smaller forwards at times. He needs refinement and thinking otherwise because he looked okay at the Worlds is asking for trouble. When they draft Power, I just hope they send him back to the NCAA so he can really develop and then we can hopefully get him to his full potential. Here is the Dreger interview, about halfway ish through is where they start talking about Power. https://omny.fm/shows/the-instigators/06-11-tsns-darren-dreger-with-the-instigators The hype train is not as strong as you think it is, you just don’t like him and are overly obsessed with a single prospect so anytime someone says a positive thing about anyone else you just start shouting “hype train hype train hype train.” I promise you thousands of people who view Power as number one aren’t just making it up in their heads. You might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Here's the Kent Johnson highlight package. He's a very skilled player. Skill, schmill. His name is a horrible Star Wars name and doesn't lend itself to barely any references atoll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Hoss said: You might be wrong. I could be, guess we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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