bob_sauve28 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Continuing with the defense, today it's Gorges. Not great on offense Not a punishing hitter Making almost 4 million a year And just not an all around great player But the dude can block shots, box forwards out and if you watched Chad Ruhwedel the other night in Pittsburgh-Caps game you should be somewhat happy we have him. Best possible case would be him as our 7th dman but he will probably be higher than that if he is healthy. Hopefully we get a flood of talent at defense in off season but I doubt it. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't bring him home to meet the parents Edited May 10, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 No. Buy him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 All aboat usage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 What's his cap hit? I had agreed a while ago that I had no problem with him as a 3rd pairing guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted May 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 What's his cap hit? I had agreed a while ago that I had no problem with him as a 3rd pairing guy. 3.9 million from what I looked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 7th D or buried, no buyout needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 A keeper? More like a placeholder until March. Gorges would be a great playoff rental to team looking to make a deep run next year whose hoping to shore up the defence. There's zero chance we resign him after next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 He seems kind of slow, and his stats have been in decline. I think we need better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 7th D or buried, no buyout needed This. There's no need for him to have any cap repercussions beyond the 2017-2018 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 All aboat usage? It's a-boot. Ah-Boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 I wouldn't bring him home to meet the parents Literally just laughed out loud. That was savage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Uh no...we need good players not a "locker room guy" on defense...dude was not any of the years he was here ,being another year older is only going to cause a decline from there if anything Edited May 10, 2017 by matter2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Uh no...we need good players not a "locker room guy" on defense...dude was not any of the years he was here ,being another year older is only going to cause a decline from there if anything And like d4rk has been saying about Gio, if our locker room is as bad as reported, maybe these "locker room guys" actually aren't that good in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 It's a-boot. Ah-Boot. I prefer sandals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Gorges is an okay stay-at-home #4 defenseman, but according to his player usage, he gets the hardest minutes among defensmen on the team (strongest opponents and highest % of defensive zone starts). That's not who he is or what he's capable of, so he struggles. Because he plays against the league's best night-in-night-out, he appears slow, weak, and inconsistent, but it'd likely be far worse if you plugged in someone else in the current roster (for instance, Franson; Risto gets similar usage as Gorges, but he's capable and improving). It'd be far better for Gorges performance and the team performance to find someone else capable of this role. $4M is fair pay for what the Sabres are asking Gorges to do every night, but it's a little high for what the Sabres should be asking him to do every night. Gorges is suffering the same fate as Robyn Regehr. Regehr was an alright stay-at-home #3 defenseman in his later years who got beaten like a rented mule with extremely hard player usage by Ruff, because he was the unfortunate best defensive option on a weak roster. Fans turned on Regehr because they thought he sucked. I never hated much on Regehr during his decline- his usage was the result of the GM not building a complete roster. If the new GM doesn't improve the back end of the roster, Gorges will go the way of Regehr. And maybe that shouldn't be the case. Gorges is serviceable in some role on a contender. Also we can't replace four defensemen in a single offseason. Edited May 10, 2017 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Keep!! He told the Leaves to shove it. And he is a reasonable player, but he needs to be put in the right situation. He is the least of our D worries right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Wasnt he the worst statistical D in the league last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Lol this thread is unreal. GET RID OF HIM. Bury him in rochester, buy him out, trade him for a bag of pucks, just get rid of him. People complain about #21 OA for Lehner yet say nothing about a second round pick for Gorges. He's a train wreck in his own end and attributes nothing to offense. And wait, theres more... $3.9m a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Lol this thread is unreal. GET RID OF HIM. Bury him in rochester, buy him out, trade him for a bag of pucks, just get rid of him. People complain about #21 OA for Lehner yet say nothing about a second round pick for Gorges. He's a train wreck in his own end and attributes nothing to offense. And wait, theres more... $3.9m a year. No argument here. Lose the bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 He is the least of our D worries right now. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Keep!! He told the Leaves to shove it. And he is a reasonable player, but he needs to be put in the right situation. He is the least of our D worries right now. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Meh, until suitable replacement(s) established. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Wasnt he the worst statistical D in the league last season? Very very close to the bottom among all D that played any meaningful amount of minutes. Gorges is an okay stay-at-home #4 defenseman, but according to his player usage, he gets the hardest minutes among defensmen on the team (strongest opponents and highest % of defensive zone starts). That's not who he is or what he's capable of, so he struggles. Because he plays against the league's best night-in-night-out, he appears slow, weak, and inconsistent, but it'd likely be far worse if you plugged in someone else in the current roster (for instance, Franson; Risto gets similar usage as Gorges, but he's capable and improving). It'd be far better for Gorges performance and the team performance to find someone else capable of this role. $4M is fair pay for what the Sabres are asking Gorges to do every night, but it's a little high for what the Sabres should be asking him to do every night. Gorges is suffering the same fate as Robyn Regehr. Regehr was an alright stay-at-home #3 defenseman in his later years who got beaten like a rented mule with extremely hard player usage by Ruff, because he was the unfortunate best defensive option on a weak roster. Fans turned on Regehr because they thought he sucked. I never hated much on Regehr during his decline- his usage was the result of the GM not building a complete roster. If the new GM doesn't improve the back end of the roster, Gorges will go the way of Regehr. And maybe that shouldn't be the case. Gorges is serviceable in some role on a contender. Also we can't replace four defensemen in a single offseason. This might have been true 2.5 years ago. He's absolutely toast wherever he plays. He needs to be in the AHL next season, I don't want to see a single minute of NHL action from him next season. Edited May 10, 2017 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 If he can't be among our top 7 based on performance he has to be off the roster, be that an AHL, assignment, buyout, or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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