GASabresIUFAN Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 That's my point. Other then Bowman, no coach since the NHL first expanded in 1967 has won a Cup with more then one franchise. Not DD, not Quenneville, not Sutter, not Julien, not Torts, not Babcock, not Carlyle, not Hitch, none. Most Cup winning coaches were also retreads. Guys like DD and Babcock, who won in their 1st gig are the exception. Maybe DD will be the next coach after Bowman to win with a 2nd franchise, but history says someone like Ruff or DeBoer or McLellan will win before DD (or Babcock) does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 That's my point. Other then Bowman, no coach since the NHL first expanded in 1967 has won a Cup with more then one franchise. Not DD, not Quenneville, not Sutter, not Julien, not Torts, not Babcock, not Carlyle, not Hitch, none. Most Cup winning coaches were also retreads. Guys like DD and Babcock, who won in their 1st gig are the exception. Maybe DD will be the next coach after Bowman to win with a 2nd franchise, but history says someone like Ruff or DeBoer or McLellan will win before DD (or Babcock) does. Babcock's Ducks won the SC? :huh: So Kariya getting creamed was just a bad dream? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 That's my point. Other then Bowman, no coach since the NHL first expanded in 1967 has won a Cup with more then one franchise. Not DD, not Quenneville, not Sutter, not Julien, not Torts, not Babcock, not Carlyle, not Hitch, none. Most Cup winning coaches were also retreads. Guys like DD and Babcock, who won in their 1st gig are the exception. Maybe DD will be the next coach after Bowman to win with a 2nd franchise, but history says someone like Ruff or DeBoer or McLellan will win before DD (or Babcock) does. Tortorella might have a shot this year to beat all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Babcock's Ducks won the SC? :huh: So Kariya getting creamed was just a bad dream? :unsure: i forgot Babcock was a retread also when he joined the Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 When the players start saying it is when I start wanting to break things. And I've listened to enough interviews this year. The "winning is hard" line has caught on in the Sabres locker room. I've heard O'Reilly say it. I've heard Jack say it. No. No No No No No. We know winning is hard. We know that they know that winning is hard. We don't need to be saying it. It shouldn't be a talking point. It shouldn't be in the lexicon of "team speak". It's important that players, coaches, etc, carry themselves a certain way. We expect that in a lot of jobs. No one would want me to show up and to a job interview and be all "well, life is hard". Bylsma makes too many excuses that elevate our opponents. It's never "well, we did this bad". It's always "well, the other guys do this thing really good and we couldn't stop em". Wahhhhh Dan, Wahhhhhh. Loser. You're right Dark. I especially hate when coach has said pregame we have to be very careful against these guys. Its teaching them to be reactionary instead of going out and dictating play. We've seen what they are capable of if they play guns ablazing. They can win. I like team defence as much as the next guy but someday I hope we're in the other teams head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig22 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 So let me get this straight. (Almost) Everybody agrees he is not going anywhere this season barring a total collapse, right? So this entire thread is just...what? Outrage porn? Learning new ways to say that you don't like the coach? A truly internet phenomenon. I think he will do good work for the team, may not get us to the Cup (given the 10-1 odds against even a very good team each season). They will improve, are improving, and he's our boy for a while. The rest is just playing sit-and-spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 So let me get this straight. (Almost) Everybody agrees he is not going anywhere this season barring a total collapse, right? So this entire thread is just...what? Outrage porn? Learning new ways to say that you don't like the coach? A truly internet phenomenon. I think he will do good work for the team, may not get us to the Cup (given the 10-1 odds against even a very good team each season). They will improve, are improving, and he's our boy for a while. The rest is just playing sit-and-spin. Not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Not me. To me it's more the perfect storm of Bills stupidity that he is here. More booing by fans may help, but season ticket holders are the only ones the Sabre's brass comes in contact with that have a chance to sway a coaching change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I'm a Buffalo expat, so I have zero input. I'm just along for the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Not me. What, precisely, makes you think GMTM will ax DD prior to season end? I'm a Buffalo expat, so I have zero input. I'm just along for the ride.Thank you for successfully broaching a subject that has stuck with me for a while. When the hell did everyone become an expat? The source is somewhat questionable but they lay it out pretty well. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/mar/13/white-people-expats-immigrants-migration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 What, precisely, makes you think GMTM will ax DD prior to season end? Thank you for successfully broaching a subject that has stuck with me for a while. When the hell did everyone become an expat? The source is somewhat questionable but they lay it out pretty well. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/mar/13/white-people-expats-immigrants-migration I don't think you count as an immigrant if you move within a country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 What, precisely, makes you think GMTM will ax DD prior to season end? I simply don't agree. It's a matter of opinion, of conjecture, of faith, and dare I say, of hope. Thank you for successfully broaching a subject that has stuck with me for a while. When the hell did everyone become an expat? Fine. Then I'm a Buffalo emigre (my only point being that I no longer live in the region). Let's try to leave the politics of semantics out of it. I don't think you count as an immigrant if you move within a country... It's a figure of speech, not a literal definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Let's try to leave the politics of semantics out of it. Never! You take your white guilt and bathe in it. Bathe in it I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Bite me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 What the heck is going on in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 ^ Not sure. Looks like members of the Buffalo diaspora are bickering over semantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Bite me. That's right, just let the guilt of your white privilege shower over you. You can yell at me, it's completely ok because I'm white too so I probably deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 So let me get this straight. (Almost) Everybody agrees he is not going anywhere this season barring a total collapse, right? So this entire thread is just...what? Outrage porn? Learning new ways to say that you don't like the coach? A truly internet phenomenon. I think he will do good work for the team, may not get us to the Cup (given the 10-1 odds against even a very good team each season). They will improve, are improving, and he's our boy for a while. The rest is just playing sit-and-spin. I will be very surprised if DDB is canned before the end of the season, but I think if they really fall off the table then it could happen this summer. What is the bolded based on? Their improvement over last season is nonexistent-to-marginal, based on wins and losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I will be very surprised if DDB is canned before the end of the season, but I think if they really fall off the table then it could happen this summer. What is the bolded based on? Their improvement over last season is nonexistent-to-marginal, based on wins and losses. The five come-from-behind wins and significant jump in goals for in this calendar year show that there's more talent than they showed in the start of the season. In entertainment at least, if not much in results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I simply don't agree. It's a matter of opinion, of conjecture, of faith, and dare I say, of hope. Fine. Then I'm a Buffalo emigre (my only point being that I no longer live in the region). Let's try to leave the politics of semantics out of it. It's a figure of speech, not a literal definition. I don't care what you call yourself, I just can't remember seeing or hearing the term expat until the oughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 http://nhlspeculation.weebly.com/nhl-coach-shake-up-2017.html Predictions of who the HCs will be for each team next year. Who here is a Marlie Fan? Julien to Florida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) I don't care what you call yourself, I just can't remember seeing or hearing the term expat until the oughts.Yeh but when I lived in Virginia they called me a damn yankee... a northerner who wouldnt go back. Ill take expat any day. Edited February 12, 2017 by North Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Yeh but when I lived in Virginia they called me a damn yankee... a northerner who wouldnt go back. Ill take expat any day. Outside of a few areas you wouldn't really want to go to anyway we've mostly taken over the Commonwealth. It's kinda nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Bump And the "Bylsma Doomsday Clock" has been changed. Inching closer it now reads 7 minutes to midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I don't care what you call yourself, I just can't remember seeing or hearing the term expat until the oughts. Sorry you lived under a rock all that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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