matter2003 Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 Wow...makes it seem like the Sabres are a clown show medical staff... https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/lehner-sympathizes-eichels-injury-rift-sabres/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 I would look for the Paul Hamilton segment from Schopp and Bulldog this evening where he talks about it. It's important to note that the medical people under fire here no longer work for the team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, darksabre said: I would look for the Paul Hamilton segment from Schopp and Bulldog this evening where he talks about it. It's important to note that the medical people under fire here no longer work for the team. Maybe not...but what if they were replaced by similar people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, darksabre said: I would look for the Paul Hamilton segment from Schopp and Bulldog this evening where he talks about it. It's important to note that the medical people under fire here no longer work for the team. However, the team continues to hire staff that are from "the outside". Makes you wonder if they keep looking for unconventional in the medial staff just like they've done for so many other positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: Maybe not...but what if they were replaced by similar people? The odds of that would be very low Just now, Weave said: However, the team continues to hire staff that are from "the outside". Makes you wonder if they keep looking for unconventional in the medial staff just like they've done for so many other positions. Cole Beasley, M.D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, darksabre said: The odds of that would be very low I don't know. They have a stubbornness about doing things their way instead of simply hiring the guy who has done this exact sort of thing before. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 I hear Cater Hutton is blaming them, too! They refused to allow him to get eye replacement surgery 5 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Maybe not...but what if they were replaced by similar people? What if they hired way, way better people? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuffalo Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: I hear Cater Hutton is blaming them, too! They refused to allow him to get eye replacement surgery What if they hired way, way better people? Since when did we start living in hypotheticals around here!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: I hear Cater Hutton is blaming them, too! They refused to allow him to get eye replacement surgery What if they hired way, way better people? Based on their team injury histories I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) you can look these guys up, they seem legit... Head Team Physician (both Sabres and Bills): Marc Fineberg, M.D. https://www.ecmc.edu/our-doctors/marc-fineberg/ Team Physician: Michael Freitas, M.D. https://www.highgatemedical.com/freitas Team Physician: Rajiv Jain, M.D. https://www.sheridanmedgroup.com/meet-our-providers/physicians/rajiv-jain-md Edited August 12, 2021 by pi2000 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 Cynic's view: he's trying to help Eichel out by undermining the Sabres. He picked his side a few weeks ago in another interview. The media and players are really trying to help other teams get Eichel for an ROR deal. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted August 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Cynic's view: he's trying to help Eichel out by undermining the Sabres. He picked his side a few weeks ago in another interview. The media and players are really trying to help other teams get Eichel for an ROR deal. I doubt it...when a team is this badly run it extends to all areas of the organization. Players wouldn't go out of their way to trash medical staffs that way unless something was really off. Edited August 12, 2021 by matter2003 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, Shmuffalo said: Since when did we start living in hypotheticals around here!? Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, Shmuffalo said: Since when did we start living in hypotheticals around here!? You new here? 1 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 The Bills have some of the best trainers and medical staff in the NFL. It’s evident on the field as well. It’s hard to imagine the Sabres staff is the complete opposite. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Wow...makes it seem like the Sabres are a clown show medical staff... https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/lehner-sympathizes-eichels-injury-rift-sabres/ Twitter didn’t exactly see eye to eye with Mr. Lehner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, pi2000 said: you can look these guys up, they seem legit... Head Team Physician (both Sabres and Bills): Marc Fineberg, M.D. https://www.ecmc.edu/our-doctors/marc-fineberg/ Team Physician: Michael Freitas, M.D. https://www.highgatemedical.com/freitas Team Physician: Rajiv Jain, M.D. https://www.sheridanmedgroup.com/meet-our-providers/physicians/rajiv-jain-md I wish Lehner would mind his own business. He is not a doctor. Keep in mind that if other teams doctors thought Eichel’s desire for surgery was the absolute right course he may have been traded by now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, pi2000 said: you can look these guys up, they seem legit... Head Team Physician (both Sabres and Bills): Marc Fineberg, M.D. https://www.ecmc.edu/our-doctors/marc-fineberg/ Team Physician: Michael Freitas, M.D. https://www.highgatemedical.com/freitas Team Physician: Rajiv Jain, M.D. https://www.sheridanmedgroup.com/meet-our-providers/physicians/rajiv-jain-md To follow up on what Pi said All three also are listed as UBMD Orthopedic and Sports Medicine Physicians. Two of the Three they replaced did not have Sports Medicine Fellowships. In addition the Head Trainer at the time had a background in Rugby. As previously mentioned a large majority of the Trainers have been replaced. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKB1646 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Cynic's view: he's trying to help Eichel out by undermining the Sabres. He picked his side a few weeks ago in another interview. The media and players are really trying to help other teams get Eichel for an ROR deal. The time frame Lehner is speaking out about it needs to be remembered that he was in the bag half the time. He has admitted himself that time frame he didn’t know what country he was in let alone games or practices he participated in without being high! Edited August 12, 2021 by JKB1646 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 ***** Robin Lehner, I don't give a ***** about his opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootica Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) A few thoughts: You don't need to play or have played hockey to properly diagnose and treat hockey injuries. It is generally recommended to keep using a sprained ankle for non-weightbearing activity (like a low resistance exercise bike) soon after injury to promote bloodflow/healing and maintain flexibility. You could have at least googled it before whining on a podcast years later. Sorry Robin but call me back once you get your degree in orthopedics. Edited August 12, 2021 by Shootica 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, kas23 said: The Bills have some of the best trainers and medical staff in the NFL. It’s evident on the field as well. It’s hard to imagine the Sabres staff is the complete opposite. It’s not that hard to imagine. The Bills are now a Super Bowl contender. The Sabres are the complete opposite - a top overall pick contender, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: It’s not that hard to imagine. The Bills are now a Super Bowl contender. The Sabres are the complete opposite - a top overall pick contender, again. They share a lot of medical staff. You seem to imply that drafting the right quarterback makes the doctors good for the Bills and then they become idiots for the Sabres. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: It’s not that hard to imagine. The Bills are now a Super Bowl contender. The Sabres are the complete opposite - a top overall pick contender, again. So what your saying is Buffalo is the City of Contenders? As for Lehner, and I'm not necessarily trying to defend him because I don't think he should be blaming others more then himself for how things went down in Buffalo (a team that actually saw the potential in him and overpaid to bring him in to be given the chance to be a full time starter), He may not have a medical degree but did live through all of it and knows best what went down. I don't think he is making these comments if other medical experts had told him that the Sabres medical staff did everything correctly...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 Lehner hasn't played for the team since 2018. Seems like the media is really digging to keep the negative narrative going against the Sabres. What's the real point? All about poor Eichel? They should focus on getting some NHL team(s) to step up with a fair trade offer so that poor Jack can get his desired medical procedure. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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