Drunkard Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Well, there was all the reporting around ROR before the trade about the role the bonus played in his market. Maybe it's a bunch of nonsense, but I'd imagine owners in smaller markets aren't a big fan. I don't think they're super common overall, but it seems they're becoming more frequent with newer contracts. Can't blame them either. Signing deals like that allow guys to: A) Get paid up front B) Protect themselves against being bought out C) Avoid escrow D) Avoid state income taxes (in states with no income tax) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, Alkoholist said: Can't blame them either. Signing deals like that allow guys to: A) Get paid up front B) Protect themselves against being bought out C) Avoid escrow D) Avoid state income taxes (in states with no income tax) Bonuses aren't subject to escrow? Really? Mind. Blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Hoss said: Callahan to a third team is very likely but that team would not be giving value to Ottawa, they’d be receiving value in the deal. The Rangers have been mentioned a lot in getting Callahan back. Just kind of winging what the deal might look like: Tampa gets: Erik Karlsson Rangers get: Callahan, Tampa 2020 1st, maybe a mid-level prospect Ottawa gets: Anthony Cirelli, Cal Foote, Taylor Raddysh, Tampa 2019 first That’s probably not the package Ottawa gets because I think they’ll demand one of Point/Sergachev (and Tampa should be willing if that’s what gets the deal done). If it’s Point then take out Cirelli and Raddysh, if it’s Sergachev then take out Foote. I also imagine Ottawa will want a bigger pick haul than that. I would also think that the Rangers would not be a team Callahan wants to go back to. They aren't going to win anything while he's under contract. If he's providing 16 teams they would most likely be playoff favorites wouldn't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Alkoholist said: Can't blame them either. Signing deals like that allow guys to: A) Get paid up front B) Protect themselves against being bought out C) Avoid escrow D) Avoid state income taxes (in states with no income tax) 18 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Bonuses aren't subject to escrow? Really? Mind. Blown. Signing bonuses are most certainly subject to escrow withholding. 50.4.d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, LTS said: I would also think that the Rangers would not be a team Callahan wants to go back to. They aren't going to win anything while he's under contract. If he's providing 16 teams they would most likely be playoff favorites wouldn't you think? Player lists rarely reflect the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod 3m3 minutes ago More Patrick Maroon and the St. Louis Blues are finalizing a 1-year contract in the neighbourhood of $1.75M. Deal is expected to be official later this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Taro T said: Signing bonuses are most certainly subject to escrow withholding. 50.4.d Okay, thanks. I can reassemble my brain now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Bonuses aren't subject to escrow? Really? Mind. Blown. My mistake. But hey, 3 out of 4 ain't bad. Edited July 10, 2018 by Alkoholist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alkoholist said: My mistake. But hey, 3 out of 4 ain't bad. 75%. Solid C, and as we all know, Cs get degrees baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: 75%. Solid C, and as we all know, Cs get degrees baby! In Canada, unfortunately, most Universities have a slogan these days ... 'D is for diploma'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, N S said: In Canada, unfortunately, most Universities have a slogan these days ... 'D is for diploma'. I've always heard D means done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 I find this very entertaining... https://www.bardown.com/leo-komarov-provided-an-extra-explanation-for-brad-marchand-s-licking-1.1135629 "Leo Komarov: Marchand is a good friend of mine, probably that’s why he licked me. But I’m married, we have children, so he doesn’t have any chance" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 hahaha, that's perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Did it bother you? "No (pause, smile) I kind of liked it" What a great beatdown of homophobia. I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 Bergevin gave up a major negotiating tactic with other teams looking to trade for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 The history of Captains in Montreal ... either they hoist the cup, or they get traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 And the Sabres never won the Cup, so theirs just get traded.... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doohickie said: And the Sabres never won the Cup, so theirs just get traded.... ? Or walk in free agency ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 21 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: I just can't believe Yzerman keeps getting his stars to sign for amounts obviously less than their market value. And we're not talking about $500k hometown discounts either. Hedman could have gotten Subban money on the open market, and Kucherov would have been around Tavares money. Unreal. Yzerman should win every executive of the year award until these contracts expire. Really makes me wonder how much Matthews will get. Either Kucherov is a steal , or McDavid really got to much. But Toronto with JT at 11 mil. Matthews will ask for 13 mil, Nylander should get 7 and Marner around 8. And they still need to fix their Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 If there was ever a time to test pi's theory on Matthews, it's when we find out just how much he gets for his contract. If he gets any more than Tavares, pi might be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) Erik Karlsson: "a garbage pick." http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Columnists/Brennan/2008/06/21/5947311-sun.html Edited July 11, 2018 by Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Eleven said: Erik Karlsson: "a garbage pick." http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Columnists/Brennan/2008/06/21/5947311-sun.html One of those great examples of... everything you think you know and can prognosticate now is garbage. This is why I don't get all that bothered about trades, player selections, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, WildCard said: If there was ever a time to test pi's theory on Matthews, it's when we find out just how much he gets for his contract. If he gets any more than Tavares, pi might be right I'll be shocked if he signs for <11m, and don't see a deal getting done this summer.... my guess is it drags on into the season and becomes a distraction (Toronto media), ultimately they buckle and give in to his contract demands before he reaches RFA status. Expectations will be raised because of the large salary, which he'll find impossible to live up to... ultimately getting run out of town and landing in his home state where he'll be welcomed with open arms. Edited July 11, 2018 by pi2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, pi2000 said: I'll be shocked if he signs for <11m, and don't see a deal getting done this summer.... my guess is it drags on into the season and becomes a distraction (Toronto media), ultimately they buckle and give in to his contract demands before he reaches RFA status. Expectations will be raised because of the large salary, which he'll find impossible to live up to... ultimately getting run out of town and landing in his home state where he'll be welcomed with open arms. It's already started. They've been asking him questions about Tavares and the C a ton ever since the signing. To the point where, for some reason, Bobby Orr went off about it https://www.nhl.com/news/bobby-orr-says-auston-matthews-has-no-issues-with-john-tavares-possible-captaincy/c-299455102?tid=277548856 Edit: Orr's agency has Matthews, so that's why Edited July 11, 2018 by WildCard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Rumor has it Lou may put an offer in for one of Toronto’s RFA’s. Was on the radio this am with the Fan according to one of our docs. He wasn’t sure who but said Lou still pissed at Toronto over Tavares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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