PASabreFan Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 The dream, the fantasy really, is that a new core, a championship core, is growing up and growing together in Rochester, not unlike Millsie, Roysie, Pommsie and Vanzie et al. When they're all in Buffalo one day, who comprises the other side of the family that has to be melded together to make a team? Jack, of course. Rasmus. How's that gonna go? Is the future captain an Amerk right now and does he take Jack aside and say, Listen, brah, that's not how we roll here? I'm not suggesting there's no place for Eichel on a mythical future Sabres team, just that there's an interesting dynamic at play. The last time a core came up together, the co-captains and a few others were already here, and it worked perfectly — well, almost. Just some food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I really think Jack Eichel is still our franchise player and the very heart of any core going forward - and very likely the future captain. I hope Botterill doesn’t let him languish for too long in Buffalo shambles while Rochester builds up the rest of Cap’s Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Jack will be fine, he just wants to win... if help comes from Roch I'm sure he'll embrace it. It's part of being a pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 The current Amerks success is mostly from non Sabres prospects. Ullmark, Guhle AND CJ Smith withstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 A bit premature imo. There's a plethora of prospects about to hit that roster in the next 2 seasons. We'll know much more then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I'm certain that Jack and Rasmus will be happy playing with some real hockey players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think you're overthinking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Fake news. :P What good hockey players don't want to play for a winner. Now not saying many others will still be left standing but, Jack, Risto, and maybe McCabe would be fine I'm sure.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 The current Amerks success is mostly from non Sabres prospects. Ullmark, Guhle AND CJ Smith withstanding. You mean not withstanding the top scorer, top goalie and best D and overall player on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 You mean not withstanding the top scorer, top goalie and best D and overall player on the team. Yes. Put those 3 on the Sabres and no one notices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yes. Put those 3 on the Sabres and no one notices. Word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 The answer is "Ruff." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) JBot is Nick Fury. Eichel is Capt America. Kane is Iron Man. ROR is Star Lord. Risto is Black Widow (he looks fem but has skills). All we need is a tough power forward with some upside (Hulk). A young, talented top six forward (Spider-Man). A real playmaker with vision (Hawkeye). Finally we need a top two Dman who can get gritty (Thor). SABRES ASSEMBLE! PS: Sam is not our Hawkeye because he sucks. Tim Murray is the Hydra infiltrator who screwed up the team building from within. Edited January 10, 2018 by RambosKnife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Where were the Murray critics before the day he was fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Where were the Murray critics before the day he was fired? posted in the 2014 NHL Draft Poll: Favorite/Least Favorite and Grade Posted 30 June 2014 - 06:44 AM /snip Tim Murray arrived in town with the second overall pick, 3 seconds, and the ability to take dead money from other teams, and left town farther away from Tampa in talent then he was before. I believe I am the first off the Tim Murray bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Where were the Murray critics before the day he was fired? Sometimes people need to reflect and see the decisions out before they can accurately critique a gm. We as fans shouldn't be playing the "well I knew Murray sucked before you did!" card. We as fan should just be at the point of Murray sucked and we should be happy he is gone. He pissed assets out the window. Lehner for Boeser. The entire second round of 2014. Trading everyone and their mom in the Kane Bogo deal, this deal may work is Kane is either re-signed or traded to reacquire assets. We gutted the system of talent and then under Murray's watch did not do enough to draft and develop talent. I am skeptical of Botterill at the moment because he hasn't pulled the trigger and this team needs to trade off some of these expiring deals. Getting nothing for Kane in a lost season would be criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Where were the Murray critics before the day he was fired? There was a couple of us here. Robviously and myself that I recall. It was frustrating fighting that battle against the whole rest of the board, but it was actually a gift. Between that and the state of the Sabres franchise, I haven't paid too much attention to the team. That separation has allowed me to just appreciate the gallows humor that is this team from top to bottom, and not be invested enough for them to affect my life in any way. Kind of how I felt with the Bills drought. When they get their in order, I'll be there rooting like hell for them. Until then, they aren't worth my limited free time to care. The Bills playoff game was the first NFL game I've watched in over 3 years. Even then I couldn't get through the whole thing due to the team's performance, the modern NFL experience (commercials, officiating, etc.), and other obligations to attend to that day, but I was there in my long stored away Bills gear hoping for the best. Switching to another team is not an option for me, but neither is trying to organize my life around teams that aren't worth the effort to do so. So here I sit, waiting for them to pull me back in again while life goes on otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) posted in the 2014 NHL Draft Poll: Favorite/Least Favorite and Grade Posted 30 June 2014 - 06:44 AM /snip Tim Murray arrived in town with the second overall pick, 3 seconds, and the ability to take dead money from other teams, and left town farther away from Tampa in talent then he was before. I believe I am the first off the Tim Murray bus. Didnt like him when he said zero fs given... expressed back then thought he was an arroganr ass. Lehner trade I railed against. Thought Kane was a mistake though in retro probably wrong. Didnt like giving up McNabb either. Edited January 10, 2018 by Kottbullar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Where were the Murray critics before the day he was fired? There may have been a couple, but there sure weren't many. This board (self included) was definitely behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 The answer is "Ruff." Or more completely- "Ruff so real, Beotch!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 There may have been a couple, but there sure weren't many. This board (self included) was definitely behind him. I sometimes smirk at those who reference how smart we all are, but I do believe it to an extent. The lack of criticism on here tells me Murray wasn't fired for cause but for personality. He wasn't PSE material. How's that for some mental gymnastics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 I sometimes smirk at those who reference how smart we all are, but I do believe it to an extent. The lack of criticism on here tells me Murray wasn't fired for cause but for personality. He wasn't PSE material. How's that for some mental gymnastics? I think this is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 I sometimes smirk at those who reference how smart we all are, but I do believe it to an extent. The lack of criticism on here tells me Murray wasn't fired for cause but for personality. He wasn't PSE material. How's that for some mental gymnastics? I think this is true I don't. I think it was a case of XGMTM not meeting required metrics (i.e., year-on-year improvement). As a business owner I can see TPegs setting and enforcing metrics. The Sabres had fewer points at the end of last season than they did the one before = desired metrics not met = consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Didnt like him when he said zero fs given... expressed back then thought he was an arroganr ass. Lehner trade I railed against. Thought Kane was a mistake though in retro probably wrong. Didnt like giving up McNabb either. He never said that. That was Lgr4GM initially and the meme just spread like wildfire here on the board. He supposedly did call Mrs. Pegula a ###### (See You Next Tuesday) though so even if he didn't actually say the quote, he seemed to live by it. With nuts that big, I'm surprised he could even sit down without hurting himself. Edited January 10, 2018 by Alkoholist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 He never said that. That was Lgr4GM initially and the meme just spread like wildfire here on the board. He supposedly did call Mrs. Pegula a ###### (See You Next Tuesday) though so even if he didn't actually say the quote, he seemed to live by it. With nuts that big, I'm surprised he could even sit down without hurting himself. Yea that was a meme based on his attitude. He never said he gave 0 fu^*s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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