Winston Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Why does everybody say / think that Antipin is Russian? I just found out that he is not, indeed, Russian. He is Kazakh. And when he plays in this Europe versus North America thing, who does he play for? Europe is closest, I suppose. His father was a Soviet by birth and played most of his professional career in Russia. Perhaps Viktor was raised in Russia because of where his dad played? I really have no idea, this is just Wikipedia guessing... Vik chooses to play for the Russia National Team despite being born in Kazakhstan, whereas his father always represented Kazakhstan in international play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) The Jets beat the Bolts 3-1 last night with their 1C, 1D, plus Kulikov out and their 3rd string goalie in net!!! Edited January 31, 2018 by Ducky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Yeah, there's 2 teams downstate and 1 team in WNY. Every location has a distinctly different accent. Welcome to the conversation. And then there is cross border philosophies with three teams nearby :) Fine. I give up. :P Why does everybody say / think that Antipin is Russian? Because we're geographically challenged and insensitive. I just found out that he is not, indeed, Russian. He is Kazakh. So? What's the difference? Sounds Russian to me. And when he plays in this Europe versus North America thing, who does he play for? Europe is closest, I suppose. You think too much. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) In a forum where there is intense discussion over the difference between upstate and downstate New York, we’re lumping Kazakhstan in with Russia? Why not, their capitals are only 2000 miles apart. ???? Edited January 31, 2018 by Mick O’Manly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 In a forum where there is intense discussion over the difference between upstate and downstate New York, we’re lumping Kazakhstan in with Russia? Why not, their capitals are only 2000 miles apart. ???? Doesn't Russia have like, 11 time zones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Per McKenzie Big news out of NSH with the Predators set to announce Mike Fisher @mikefisher1212 is coming out of retirement to return as an active player. Not sure anyone saw this coming, perhaps including Fisher himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Per McKenzie Big news out of NSH with the Predators set to announce Mike Fisher @mikefisher1212 is coming out of retirement to return as an active player. Not sure anyone saw this coming, perhaps including Fisher himself. One last kick at that Cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 One last kick at that Cup? Inspired by his better half's new song??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Per McKenzie Big news out of NSH with the Predators set to announce Mike Fisher @mikefisher1212 is coming out of retirement to return as an active player. Not sure anyone saw this coming, perhaps including Fisher himself. Neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 So? What's the difference? Sounds Russian to me. I think that one way to gain a visceral understanding of the difference(s) would be to say that very thing that to your average Kazakh. Or just watch some Borat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 In a forum where there is intense discussion over the difference between upstate and downstate New York, we’re lumping Kazakhstan in with Russia? Why not, their capitals are only 2000 miles apart. ???? It’s all relative to western NY. Specifically the WNY defined as west of I-390. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Nope logo owned by a guy in Danbury area... of course im sure hed allow it for a fee. ESPN click bait... dont do it... Everything is available for a price. Vegas is so weird to analyze. Basically their entire team, individually, is having a career season. Yet, the team-level stats don't have any flashing neon signs pointing to a cliff they're going to fall off of. I think there's likely to be some regression (be it this year or next), but I don't think they're poised to totally crash like the Avs and Flames of recent past. Gotta do something to make the stats geeks freak... :) Not the best humor. Blond jokes for example. Generalizations are how we get to stereotypes and "immigrants are criminals." Despite people not wanting to accept it, stereotypes by and large are created out of a preponderance of factual information that apply to a particular grouping of things. I am leaving it generic because it really can apply to all kinds of things and not just people. There has to be an exception to it at some point and then at some point the preponderance of exceptions make it no longer a stereotype... (even if uneducated people continue to use it). In fact, if you want to insinuate that stereotypes are bad aren't you now creating a stereotype about stereotypes? The Jets beat the Bolts 3-1 last night with their 1C, 1D, plus Kulikov out and their 3rd string goalie in net!!! Meh.. the Lightning just had a weekend party. I'd expect them to be a little off. :) Edited January 31, 2018 by LTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Despite people not wanting to accept it, stereotypes by and large are created out of a preponderance of factual information that apply to a particular grouping of things. I am leaving it generic because it really can apply to all kinds of things and not just people. There has to be an exception to it at some point and then at some point the preponderance of exceptions make it no longer a stereotype... (even if uneducated people continue to use it). In fact, if you want to insinuate that stereotypes are bad aren't you now creating a stereotype about stereotypes? Actually I think stereotypes are a key part of cognitive function. One thing that makes us human is that we can plan ahead. In order to do that, you have to, at some level, be able to analyze known data to predict future events. Stereotypes are one way of grouping the data for analysis. Cheerful people seem to be more interested in helping; gruff people are not, so if you need help, approach a cheerful person.... stuff like that. Our brains are adept at classifying things, sometimes even recognizing patterns in data where no pattern really exists. We don't consciously look for patterns; we simply recognize them. From those patterns we extrapolate the future. Sometimes we're right and we're successful. Sometimes we're wrong but still successful (in which case, a false stereotype is reinforced). Sometimes we're wrong and recognize it so we change our view of a certain stereotype. Oh.... all blondes aren't dumb? Okay, got it. But unless we group and organize data with our brains, all that data is just noise and not useful information. Stereotypes are inherently part of our humanity. Failure to refine those stereotypes in the presence of new data is where stereotypes go bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Failure to refine those stereotypes in the presence of new data is where stereotypes go bad. I'll add: The practice of invoking and applying ethnic and/or racial stereotypes upon meeting a new individual person is where stereotypes go bad. Very bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 So, hockey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 So, hockey... For general hockey purposes, even though it's been discussed elsewhere: Taylor Hall fined 5k for stapling KO into the boards last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 For general hockey purposes, even though it's been discussed elsewhere: Taylor Hall fined 5k for stapling KO into the boards last night The NHL is a joke. What did Mario call it back when ... garage league. I think it was Mario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Can they at least make the fine hurt a bit? Using #nhlmath, the average American's DUI fine would be roughly 40 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hmm. Is it west of the 390, or 490? Yo yo yo 490 runs east to west. Everything west of 390 so it's only Rochester's extreme west side. If that makes me in CNY, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Yo yo yo 490 runs east to west. Everything west of 390 so it's only Rochester's extreme west side. If that makes me in CNY, so be it. Yeah I don't agree with the 390 as the boundary. I think the 390 is where you enter this weird transition zone where CNY elements start creeping in but you haven't completely left WNY. The hard transition for me would be RT-14. Once you pass Geneva you're definitely in CNY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Actually I think stereotypes are a key part of cognitive function. One thing that makes us human is that we can plan ahead. In order to do that, you have to, at some level, be able to analyze known data to predict future events. Stereotypes are one way of grouping the data for analysis. Cheerful people seem to be more interested in helping; gruff people are not, so if you need help, approach a cheerful person.... stuff like that. Our brains are adept at classifying things, sometimes even recognizing patterns in data where no pattern really exists. We don't consciously look for patterns; we simply recognize them. From those patterns we extrapolate the future. Sometimes we're right and we're successful. Sometimes we're wrong but still successful (in which case, a false stereotype is reinforced). Sometimes we're wrong and recognize it so we change our view of a certain stereotype. Oh.... all blondes aren't dumb? Okay, got it. But unless we group and organize data with our brains, all that data is just noise and not useful information. Stereotypes are inherently part of our humanity. Failure to refine those stereotypes in the presence of new data is where stereotypes go bad. Sure.. I liked what I said.. because it made no sense. Yours makes sense and sounds all scientificky. :) You walk into a coffee shop and two people are talking. I will let you apply any characteristics you'd like to the two people. You overhear a part of their conversation but during the blanked out part someone sneezed and you missed that word. What word was used? Does the word you missed change if you happen to picture a certain set of characteristics? It might not in this case because it's really a harmless conversation. In other scenarios it might invoke a stronger response. The phrase "You f _ _ _ e d me pretty good the other night at the party." will be construed different by different people. By the way, the missing word above is f o o l e d. Shame on you if you thought something else. :) Also.. hockey is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Yeah I don't agree with the 390 as the boundary. I think the 390 is where you enter this weird transition zone where CNY elements start creeping in but you haven't completely left WNY. The hard transition for me would be RT-14. Once you pass Geneva you're definitely in CNY. Anything not NYC is upstate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Anything not NYC is upstate. NYS regions.jpg Upstate is only east of Syracuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Upstate is only east of Syracuse Where you live, that's true. Where I live, like I said, it's anything north of the Tappan-Zee bridge. Also I drew the finger lakes wrong. It stops at I-81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 I've never known someone from Rochester say they are from wny. I'm excited for Mike Fischer. I hope they win the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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