Keep or Trade Evander Kane

[Eleven]

Here's a question, is he vulnerable for the Vegas Expansion draft?

 

Yes.

[SabresBaltimore]

So if that's the case, do we try to trade him now for a known quantity? Or keep him around to help protect others on the roster?

 

What do we get in compensation (if anything) if they take one of our players? I'm either blind or can't seem to find it. 

[Eleven]

So if that's the case, do we try to trade him now for a known quantity? Or keep him around to help protect others on the roster?

 

What do we get in compensation (if anything) if they take one of our players? I'm either blind or can't seem to find it. 

 

 

No team will be compensated for the player it loses in the expansion draft.  (Well, except for their share of the $500 million expansion fee!)

 

Kane is an eligible draftee, but he is protectable, too.  I would guess that whomever the Sabres would receive in return would be a player in the same situation, so trading him wouldn't really solve the expansion draft problem.  

[SabresBaltimore]

I guess my original question was more like, will the Sabres use one of their saves on Kane, or leave him vulnerable.

 

The rules

 

 

* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft: 

a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender

b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender

* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

Our defense isn't that deep, I'd imagine we go with option A. I'm not up on the contracts, and I'm not sure if Sam and Jack are considered 2nd year or 3rd year (previous season, or current?). We have to protect Okposo and we'll definitely protect RoR. What other forwards though?

[TrueBlueGED]

Samson and Jack are both exempt from the expansion draft. So yea, even though I'm far from Kane's biggest fan, there's no reason not to protect him.

[North Buffalo]

Trade Kane only if it means a top 4 D or a young forward and low number 1. Could be turned into future D.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

He was exactly the type of player the Sabres needed when they traded for him.  I remember the talk here about it.

 

Since he is finally turning into that player here I say no way to trading him.

[Weave]

Keep.

[Jsixspd]

I'm punting my decision out as far as possible - to see if Kane's play of late is a streak or a solid trend.  

[MODO Hockey]

There is no tradevalue, his value cant be more than 1,5 mill by now, so many injuries and 0,5 points per game is just not worth it, atleast thats what i would think if i was a gm.
So i guess i say keep and hope he produces more goals and raises his value so we can trade him for something worth while.

Edited January 11, 2017 by MODO Hockey

[RonHextallsShoulderPads]

keep him. what is this constant rebuilding mentality to grow more and more prospects. when does the time come when we keep our players and make a move toward the playoffs? so bizarre. 

[Norcal]

Keep. 30 goals. Book it!

[Huckleberry]

we aren't trading him at the deadline I think, if anythign happens its over the summer if he states he doesn't want to resign with buffalo.

[nfreeman]

I vote keep unless a knock-socks-off trade offer is received, which I think is highly unlikely.

 

There is NFW he is exposed in the expansion draft.

 

BUT

 

I have a little, nagging suspicion that all is not happy behind the scenes with the Sabres and Kane. I see no joy from him on the ice, even when he scores.

 

He congratulates his teammates, and sticks up for them in scrums, and plays hard -- but something seems off.

 

Maybe they read him the riot act after his legal scrapes last summer and told him they were going to ship him out for the first decent offer. Maybe he thought no one defended him and he felt betrayed. Maybe the rumors from Winnipeg were true and he's a self-absorbed jerk whom no one can stand.

 

Or maybe I'm imagining the whole thing.

 

But I won't be surprised if he's traded. (Although I will be disappointed, because I like his game.)

[Huckleberry]

If he keeps playing, and putting up goals like he has the last couple of weeks, I'd even want to resign him.

[Randall Flagg]

I vote keep unless a knock-socks-off trade offer is received, which I think is highly unlikely.

 

There is NFW he is exposed in the expansion draft.

 

BUT

 

I have a little, nagging suspicion that all is not happy behind the scenes with the Sabres and Kane. I see no joy from him on the ice, even when he scores.

 

He congratulates his teammates, and sticks up for them in scrums, and plays hard -- but something seems off.

 

Maybe they read him the riot act after his legal scrapes last summer and told him they were going to ship him out for the first decent offer. Maybe he thought no one defended him and he felt betrayed. Maybe the rumors from Winnipeg were true and he's a self-absorbed jerk whom no one can stand.

 

Or maybe I'm imagining the whole thing.

 

But I won't be surprised if he's traded. (Although I will be disappointed, because I like his game.)

I get this feeling too, and it sucks because the Kane of the last month or so is someone I desperately want to carry our third line for years. 

[Sabel79]

I vote keep unless a knock-socks-off trade offer is received, which I think is highly unlikely.

 

There is NFW he is exposed in the expansion draft.

 

BUT

 

I have a little, nagging suspicion that all is not happy behind the scenes with the Sabres and Kane. I see no joy from him on the ice, even when he scores.

 

He congratulates his teammates, and sticks up for them in scrums, and plays hard -- but something seems off.

 

Maybe they read him the riot act after his legal scrapes last summer and told him they were going to ship him out for the first decent offer. Maybe he thought no one defended him and he felt betrayed. Maybe the rumors from Winnipeg were true and he's a self-absorbed jerk whom no one can stand.

 

Or maybe I'm imagining the whole thing.

 

But I won't be surprised if he's traded. (Although I will be disappointed, because I like his game.)

I'm fairly sure his ticket was punched before and until he did get into trouble, and he knows it.  They'll keep him this season but I'd expect him to be elsewhere next year. 

[Thorny]

I vote keep unless a knock-socks-off trade offer is received, which I think is highly unlikely.

There is NFW he is exposed in the expansion draft.

BUT

I have a little, nagging suspicion that all is not happy behind the scenes with the Sabres and Kane. I see no joy from him on the ice, even when he scores.

He congratulates his teammates, and sticks up for them in scrums, and plays hard -- but something seems off.

Maybe they read him the riot act after his legal scrapes last summer and told him they were going to ship him out for the first decent offer. Maybe he thought no one defended him and he felt betrayed. Maybe the rumors from Winnipeg were true and he's a self-absorbed jerk whom no one can stand.

Or maybe I'm imagining the whole thing.

But I won't be surprised if he's traded. (Although I will be disappointed, because I like his game.)

Ehh...I'm actually fairly skeptical of that line of thinking. Have you seen Kane's twitter recently? He's frequently liking and retweeting Sabres stuff. If you go to his "likes" section, it's a bunch of official Sabres posts, posts about games we've won. Personally I doubt whether he'd be doing this if he had bad blood with the organization. But who knows.

Edited January 12, 2017 by Thorny

[darksabre]

I vote keep unless a knock-socks-off trade offer is received, which I think is highly unlikely.

 

There is NFW he is exposed in the expansion draft.

 

BUT

 

I have a little, nagging suspicion that all is not happy behind the scenes with the Sabres and Kane. I see no joy from him on the ice, even when he scores.

 

He congratulates his teammates, and sticks up for them in scrums, and plays hard -- but something seems off.

 

Maybe they read him the riot act after his legal scrapes last summer and told him they were going to ship him out for the first decent offer. Maybe he thought no one defended him and he felt betrayed. Maybe the rumors from Winnipeg were true and he's a self-absorbed jerk whom no one can stand.

 

Or maybe I'm imagining the whole thing.

 

But I won't be surprised if he's traded. (Although I will be disappointed, because I like his game.)

I can see where you'd be inclined to read the tea leaves this way, but I'm willing to offer a different reason for his seeming lack of enthusiasm.

 

We know Jack isn't happy with the team right now. That much has been made clear. 

 

We also know that Jack and Kane appear to like/respect each other. 

 

I suspect Kane is following Jack's lead and tempering his enthusiasm about things like scoring goals in the interest of making a point: that they haven't earned the right to celebrate yet. 

 

I think Kane is focused. I think his play as of late reflects that. 

[jsb]

There is no tradevalue, his value cant be more than 1,5 mill by now, so many injuries and 0,5 points per game is just not worth it, atleast thats what i would think if i was a gm.

So i guess i say keep and hope he produces more goals and raises his value so we can trade him for something worth while.

He's scored 30 goals in his 94 games he's played here, I don't know what you're talking about, you don't like his style?? I understand that but to say he has little to no value as a player, I think you're wrong

 

I vote keep unless a knock-socks-off trade offer is received, which I think is highly unlikely.

 

There is NFW he is exposed in the expansion draft.

 

BUT

Cut your post short for brevity but I think it's more of an ego thing with him feeling he was bounced off the top 6. I think it's worked because he's taken the bait and he's been a big positive for the team and Samson in my opinion. He and Bailey are giving him space to play which is making his transition to Center much easier and successful.

Edited January 12, 2017 by jsb

[That Aud Smell]

I have a little, nagging suspicion that all is not happy behind the scenes with the Sabres and Kane. I see no joy from him on the ice, even when he scores.

I can see where you'd be inclined to read the tea leaves this way, but I'm willing to offer a different reason for his seeming lack of enthusiasm.

 

We know Jack isn't happy with the team right now. That much has been made clear. 

 

We also know that Jack and Kane appear to like/respect each other. 

 

I suspect Kane is following Jack's lead and tempering his enthusiasm about things like scoring goals in the interest of making a point: that they haven't earned the right to celebrate yet. 

 

I think Kane is focused. I think his play as of late reflects that. 

 

I'm more in line with d4rk here.

 

As I was reading freeman's post, I chuckled at the idea: There might be something wrong with Kane because he's no longer acting like a raging d-bag.

 

Joking - mostly. But I have noticed it too, mostly over the last several games.

 

OTOH, 

 

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[nfreeman]

Ehh...I'm actually fairly skeptical of that line of thinking. Have you seen Kane's twitter recently? He's frequently liking and retweeting Sabres stuff. If you go to his "likes" section, it's a bunch of official Sabres posts, posts about games we've won. Personally I doubt whether he'd be doing this if he had bad blood with the organization. But who knows.

I can see where you'd be inclined to read the tea leaves this way, but I'm willing to offer a different reason for his seeming lack of enthusiasm.

 

We know Jack isn't happy with the team right now. That much has been made clear. 

 

We also know that Jack and Kane appear to like/respect each other. 

 

I suspect Kane is following Jack's lead and tempering his enthusiasm about things like scoring goals in the interest of making a point: that they haven't earned the right to celebrate yet. 

 

I think Kane is focused. I think his play as of late reflects that. 

 

Good counterpoints here boys.

[TheAud]

I can see where you'd be inclined to read the tea leaves this way, but I'm willing to offer a different reason for his seeming lack of enthusiasm.

 

We know Jack isn't happy with the team right now. That much has been made clear. 

 

We also know that Jack and Kane appear to like/respect each other. 

 

I suspect Kane is following Jack's lead and tempering his enthusiasm about things like scoring goals in the interest of making a point: that they haven't earned the right to celebrate yet. 

 

I think Kane is focused. I think his play as of late reflects that. 

I was also thinking along the lines of nfreeman in viewing Kane on ice, but now think I will choose to follow this line of reasoning as it's much more optimistic and I can use that!

[Sabres Fan in NS]

I can understand your perspective nfreeman.

 

What we very well might be seeing is the maturation of Kane on and off the ice.  I hope this is the case and that he grows into an integral part of a Sabres cup team.

[TrueBlueGED]

With the way Kane has been playing lately, I'm shocked "trade" is doing so well. I thought for sure I'd be a man on an island!