Thorny Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) True, and I get that. But that still doesn't address who gets screwed the most. I believe it's that team that has to lose a good player, despite the fact that they can afford to This is what I'm looking for. That tidbit about Fleury is very interesting for me. Good post So, who wants Fleury? *ducks* Well, ya, the best teams are most likely to be the most affected. It's like how people with higher income are generally taxed more. One could argue these teams are getting "screwed over", but that is probably just the expansion system working as intended. But yup, the Fleury situation jumps out most it seems. Edited October 26, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I would love to be in the room when GMTM comes in and tells DD that I just traded for Fleury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Fasching moved onto the 2nd PP, Grant moved off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 I would love to be in the room when GMTM comes in and tells DD that I just traded for FleuryI'd fire Murray on the spot if he traded for Fleury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) It's time to get some energy in the room. Bring back Baptiste. Give Nylander a couple of games. Bench anyone not giving 100%. After that lackluster performance (our 2nd terrible performance in 2 home games) It's time to try anything. Need to add speed and skill. So ...... Nylander ROR Reinhart Moulson Larsson Okposo Ennis Girgensons Baptiste Foligno Schneider Gionta Kulikov Risto McCabe Bogo Gorges Nelson (10 minutes only) Ullmark Lehner Demoted Fasching and Grant. Waive Nilsson. Put Deslauriers on the bench permenantly. Edited October 28, 2016 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'd fire Murray on the spot if he traded for Fleury So would I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Fasching moved onto the 2nd PP, Grant moved offThank Moulson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Fasching moved onto the 2nd PP, Grant moved offTFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) How about Grant moves 60 miles eastward, where he belongs? Edited October 29, 2016 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Elmira lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 It's time to get some energy in the room. Bring back Baptiste. Give Nylander a couple of games. Bench anyone not giving 100%. After that lackluster performance (our 2nd terrible performance in 2 home games) It's time to try anything. Need to add speed and skill. So ...... Nylander ROR Reinhart Moulson Larsson Okposo Ennis Girgensons Baptiste Foligno Schneider Gionta Kulikov Risto McCabe Bogo Gorges Nelson (10 minutes only) Ullmark Lehner Demoted Fasching and Grant. Waive Nilsson. Put Deslauriers on the bench permenantly. Don't want Nylander anywhere near this sorry bunch. Let him develop in Roch properly. I'd give Baptiste another look tho, and Bailey. Sit Grant down, hell, sit Reinhart I think it would be good for him. Launch Nilsson bring another vet goalie. Double shift Moulson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Elmira lol Yeaaaahhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Yeaaaahhhh You'll take Justin Kea and John Muse (who?) And be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Dan Bylsma said that Deslauriers' timetable for recovery looks like weeks at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 Get well, D-Lo. Happy for Baptiste that he'll get an extended look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 So is Baptiste better than Bailey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 So is Baptiste better than Bailey? Coming into the season I thought Bailey was on the fast track to the NHL as he out performed Baptiste by a wide margin in their rookie AHL seasons. For whatever reason, possibly handling getting sent down, has favored Baptiste considerably this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 So is Baptiste better than Bailey?.iv seen them both play numerous times since being drafted. I think they are both high End prospects who will have long NHL careers, thoughI've always thought Baptiste was a bit more polished and much more of a 2 way player. Can't wait till both are full time players as Sabres could really use their speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 .iv seen them both play numerous times since being drafted. I think they are both high End prospects who will have long NHL careers, thoughI've always thought Baptiste was a bit more polished and much more of a 2 way player. Can't wait till both are full time players as Sabres could really use their speed. Baptiste has better hands and is a bit more creative. Bailey is a physical specimen who may have dominated lesser competition with size and speed. I don't see the hands in his game and he thinks the game instead of reacting. More time in the AHL can cure both ills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Right now, Ristolainen and Gorges have a CF% of 39.4 when together. When split apart, Gorges is a 19.0%, and Risto is a 51.6%. The sample size is small still, but this is something that was predicted before the season, based on last year.I do think the pairs are maximized right now, because I think a pairing of Gorges - Franson hurts us a lot, but GMTM still needs to focus on finding Risto a partner that can handle the minutes Dan gives him, even though (I think) the defense as a unit has been playing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Baptiste has better hands and is a bit more creative. Bailey is a physical specimen who may have dominated lesser competition with size and speed. I don't see the hands in his game and he thinks the game instead of reacting. More time in the AHL can cure both ills. Why someone doesn't get called up is always a bit of a mystery. The example I always come back to is Pominville. Vanek and Roy make the team and Pommers is waived and no one takes him. Then he finally get a chance and now all these years later, he may the best of that great rookie crop. (Fyi; Pommers is the 3rd leading pts scorer of the 2001 draft class.) Bailey will get his shot. With Nick out amd Fasching, maybe they'll finally another shot. Right now, Ristolainen and Gorges have a CF% of 39.4 when together. When split apart, Gorges is a 19.0%, and Risto is a 51.6%. The sample size is small still, but this is something that was predicted before the season, based on last year. I do think the pairs are maximized right now, because I think a pairing of Gorges - Franson hurts us a lot, but GMTM still needs to focus on finding Risto a partner that can handle the minutes Dan gives him, even though (I think) the defense as a unit has been playing well. As long as Gorges and Franson remain Sabres we will continue to have a hole in the D group. The sad part is there isn't anyone in the organization ready to replace them now or maybe even in the next year or two. Obviously, Nelson's play in his only game didn't inspire any confidence and with the team with 2 straight wins, i doubt you'll see a change in the D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Theoretically if you can protect 6F and 4D from each team than Las Vegas is filling their roster from the bottom 6 forwards and the last pairing from each team. That assembled team would be a lock for last place. 7F/3D or 8 skaters at least gives Las Vegas a chance at someone that may be worth rostering. I've done the 8 skaters thing and there really isn't an issue with us going with 4 D. Forwards you protect are RoR, Okposo, Larsson, Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Right now, Ristolainen and Gorges have a CF% of 39.4 when together. When split apart, Gorges is a 19.0%, and Risto is a 51.6%. The sample size is small still, but this is something that was predicted before the season, based on last year. I do think the pairs are maximized right now, because I think a pairing of Gorges - Franson hurts us a lot, but GMTM still needs to focus on finding Risto a partner that can handle the minutes Dan gives him, even though (I think) the defense as a unit has been playing well. I'm not sure Gorges-Franson would really hurt that much given limited minutes. I remember early last year that Weber-Franson was passable despite the glaring foot speed concerns. Edited October 31, 2016 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I'm not sure Gorges-Franson would really hurt that much given limited minutes. I remember early last year that Weber-Franson was passable despite the glaring foot speed concerns. I wish they would put Kulikov with Ristolainen on the top pair and put Gorges with Bogosian on pair 2 with McCabe and Franson taking the 3rd pair until we upgrade from Franson and eventually Gorges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 So when do we want to start a sign Kulikov thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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