LGR4GM Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Thoughts on this? Edited February 1, 2023 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 I would agree 100%. Fans like the give the 110% every shift mantra, but who on earth thinks that is sustainable? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Does that make the NBA a 50% league. They don’t seem to take it seriously until the playoffs. Edited February 1, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Interesting. And may explain why young players fade as the season progresses. If they have to give 100% to stay competitive, what happens when they wear down and the rest of the league is just starting to ramp up? It also explains why the game really starts to change in the last 1/3 of the season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Weave said: Interesting. And may explain why young players fade as the season progresses. If they have to give 100% to stay competitive, what happens when they wear down and the rest of the league is just starting to ramp up? It also explains why the game really starts to change in the last 1/3 of the season. It would also explain the common burst a team gets from AHL callups but they rarely last more than a couple games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yep. File this under “things people know deep down but generally just don’t like saying out loud”. 14 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: It would also explain the common burst a team gets from AHL callups but they rarely last more than a couple games And when players Steve Bernier-out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Thoughts on this? Those guys don’t want to be here. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) On 1/31/2023 at 8:45 PM, SDS said: I would agree 100%. Fans like the give the 110% every shift mantra, but who on earth thinks that is sustainable? So many elite sports are this way. Even the Olympics. If you have to fight to get out of heats, quarters, semis, etc to make a Grand Final, you won’t have enough left in the tank to get a medal. To win the Olympics you have to be able to “cruise” through a bit of the event. When 85% are are fighting for their life; you have to save a gear because there are only so many times in a year you can go deep into the well. Then you rave the 15% of the field that made the final at 110%. Edited February 3, 2023 by Mango 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAud Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Does that make the NBA a 50% league. They don’t seem to take it seriously until the playoffs. This was my first thought. Compared to regular season NBA games, regular season NHL games are at March Madness level intensity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheAud said: This was my first thought. Compared to regular season NBA games, regular season NHL games are at March Madness level intensity. That is what I like about NHL playoffs and tournaments like the World Juniors, there is closer to 100% effort, all of the time. March Madness is similar too, I don’t watch it anymore, but I preferred it to the NBA for that reason. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 hours ago, SDS said: I would agree 100%. Fans like the give the 110% every shift mantra, but who on earth thinks that is sustainable? I would agree 85% 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Totally agree. It’s exactly what Granato is taking about when he says the young players have learn to play the game “efficiently” and learn that “you don’t have to win every shift”. It’s no different from the philosophy of not sacrificing winning long-term for winning tonight. The NHL regular season is marathon, not a sprint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Without a doubt, the goal should be 110% every single shift, start to finish. There will be ups and downs, moments where you just don't have it, but that doesn't mean you intentionally take shifts off. Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 44 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Without a doubt, the goal should be 110% every single shift, start to finish. There will be ups and downs, moments where you just don't have it, but that doesn't mean you intentionally take shifts off. Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. Have you ever eaten 110% of a pizza that you ordered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 25 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: Have you ever eaten 110% of a pizza that you ordered? Regurgitation... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: Have you ever eaten 110% of a pizza that you ordered? Felt like it, at least. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 This is nothing new. Common sense would tell you players wear down as season progresses. A shorter regular season would make for better playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 And good coaching/player development should make our guy's 85% better and more impactful than 100% of the other guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said: Have you ever eaten 110% of a pizza that you ordered? Only if you eat the cheese and toppings that fell off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSeatVertigo Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Does that make the NBA a 50% league. They don’t seem to take it seriously until the playoffs. I certainly don't 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Like someone else said, this seems like common sense. The trick is trying to stagger out when your players are holding back so you have a competitive chance in most of the games. Also, another reason you need a goalie capable of steeling a game here and there. Edited February 1, 2023 by tom webster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, tom webster said: Like someone else said, this seems like common sense. The trick is trying to stagger out when your players are holding back so you have a competitive chance in most of the games. Also, another reason you need a goalie capable of steeling a game here and there. I think an eye opener for managers has been how few Presidents Trophy winners go on to win the Stanley Cup. Teams that finish first have probably expended extra energy to claim that title and may not have another gear for the playoffs. Tampa is a recent example of comfortably getting into the playoffs and grinding out deep runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 There has got to be a Yogi-ism in here somewhere. Maybe “NHL players give 110% 100% of the time in 85% of their games”? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 I wish I could go back and find all the posts where I've said that these guys can't go 100% all the time only to be told that I'm too much of a "Buffalo fan" who accepts losing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 So from here forward in every GDT will there be mentions of 85% if they win, and 15% if they lose? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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