dudacek Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 If he’s suspended he doesn’t count against the cap, right? If so they can’t suspend him; they’d be below the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 5 hours ago, dudacek said: If he’s suspended he doesn’t count against the cap, right? If so they can’t suspend him; they’d be below the floor. Nah they can suspend and can still have him count against the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 8 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Actually Monday is the next inflection point in this drama. Do the Sabres put him on IR or suspend him? What right do they have to suspend him? He failed his physical. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 hours ago, nucci said: What right do they have to suspend him? He failed his physical. Refusing team ordered medical treatment. I believe under the CBA the team has the final say on what treatment should be, and the player can elect medical arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Buff Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Well the Rangers just gave Zibanejad his extension. That should put an end to the Jack to NY talk 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said: Refusing team ordered medical treatment. I believe under the CBA the team has the final say on what treatment should be, and the player can elect medical arbitration. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, In The Buff said: Well the Rangers just gave Zibanejad his extension. That should put an end to the Jack to NY talk That’s some leverage lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Sabres winning would help Adams out a lot I bet. If we totally suck AND Jack is sitting there doing nothing, the pressure will increase on Adams and our return will be lower, IMO. Sorry about bolden, that an accident 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Sabres winning would help Adams out a lot I bet. If we totally suck AND Jack is sitting there doing nothing, the pressure will increase on Adams and our return will be lower, IMO. Sorry about bolden, that an accident Really not sure how the results this year affect the Eichel trade at all. Management & ownership know what they're icing this season. The only thing affecting the return is Jack's health status. IMHO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Taro T said: Really not sure how the results this year affect the Eichel trade at all. Management & ownership know what they're icing this season. The only thing affecting the return is Jack's health status. IMHO. What does “icing the season” mean? I see a hungry team team ready to compete to the best of their ability. Not seeing a last place finish here. They will win their share of games. If they do start losing super bad, frustration will set in and seek relief and what do we have but Jack to try and fix things with. I should start a thread “Are we tanking?” Yes or no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: What does “icing the season” mean? I see a hungry team team ready to compete to the best of their ability. Not seeing a last place finish here. They will win their share of games. If they do start losing super bad, frustration will set in and seek relief and what do we have but Jack to try and fix things with. I should start a thread “Are we tanking?” Yes or no To the 1st bolded, exactly what it says. They know what they are placing on the ice. To the 2nd bolded, OK. Personally find it a very dull question as it is simply parsing the same semantics that have been parsed the entire off-season. But, there probably are several here that will join in that discussion, so if you do start that thread, have fun with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 hours ago, In The Buff said: Well the Rangers just gave Zibanejad his extension. That should put an end to the Jack to NY talk The Rangers must have gotten a good look at the medical records. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 With the Zibanejad signing, it got me looking into how the Rangers ended up with him. It’s interesting. More of a business decision, rather than a hockey one, by the Sens. Strikingly similar to another business decision trade we were part of in the recent past. https://thehockeywriters.com/ottawa-senators-revisiting-mika-zibanejad-trade/ I just hope the Eichel trade doesn’t turn out being a pure business decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 9:46 PM, kas23 said: With the Zibanejad signing, it got me looking into how the Rangers ended up with him. It’s interesting. More of a business decision, rather than a hockey one, by the Sens. Strikingly similar to another business decision trade we were part of in the recent past. https://thehockeywriters.com/ottawa-senators-revisiting-mika-zibanejad-trade/ I just hope the Eichel trade doesn’t turn out being a pure business decision. If that was the case he would have been gone already, like O'Reilly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Huckleberry said: If that was the case he would have been gone already, like O'Reilly. I hate to say it, but there’s going to be some point in the future when Terry grows tired of paying a player $10M to sit. Of course, this would be harmful to all involved parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, kas23 said: I hate to say it, but there’s going to be some point in the future when Terry grows tired of paying a player $10M to sit. Of course, this would be harmful to all involved parties. I think Terry is pissed of enough to not let him walk for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie/status/1447953919649488900?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1447953919649488900|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hockeybuzz.com%2Fblog%2FJan-Levine%2FVitali-Kravtsov-given-permission-to-seek-trade-suspended-for-not-reporting%2F89%2F113871 Cue up the obnoxious Rags fans: “Eichel at 50% retained for Kravtov”🤪🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie/status/1447953919649488900?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1447953919649488900|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hockeybuzz.com%2Fblog%2FJan-Levine%2FVitali-Kravtsov-given-permission-to-seek-trade-suspended-for-not-reporting%2F89%2F113871 Cue up the obnoxious Rags fans: “Eichel at 50% retained for Kravtov”🤪🤯 For it to render you have to remove all the extraneous link stuff (everything beginning with ?ref_src= 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 18 hours ago, kas23 said: I hate to say it, but there’s going to be some point in the future when Terry grows tired of paying a player $10M to sit. Of course, this would be harmful to all involved parties. Normally I might agree, but Terry would have to spend that money anyways because without Eichel, the Sabres don't hit the Cap floor, he needs that money spent to reach the minimum he needs to spend on the team for the season. If anything, him not playing might help him save money if the contract is insured and the insurance kicks in with him being out for failing his physical. Eichels cap hit counts in the 'Cap Math', and Terry lets his insurance company pay the contract instead of his wallet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: Normally I might agree, but Terry would have to spend that money anyways because without Eichel, the Sabres don't hit the Cap floor, he needs that money spent to reach the minimum he needs to spend on the team for the season. If anything, him not playing might help him save money if the contract is insured and the insurance kicks in with him being out for failing his physical. Eichels cap hit counts in the 'Cap Math', and Terry lets his insurance company pay the contract instead of his wallet Makes sense. Would love to be a fly on the wall in meetings with the Sabres and the insurance company. We assume they are the ones blocking the surgery and assume they will soon have to pay for Jack being unable to perform his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Flashsabre said: https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie/status/1447953919649488900?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1447953919649488900|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hockeybuzz.com%2Fblog%2FJan-Levine%2FVitali-Kravtsov-given-permission-to-seek-trade-suspended-for-not-reporting%2F89%2F113871 Cue up the obnoxious Rags fans: “Eichel at 50% retained for Kravtov”🤪🤯 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Brawndo said: 🤪🙄👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 The silence that has followed this report tends to confirm that this was an invention of Brisson. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 🤔not sure whats going on here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 9:50 AM, bob_sauve28 said: What does “icing the season” mean? I see a hungry team team ready to compete to the best of their ability. Not seeing a last place finish here. They will win their share of games. If they do start losing super bad, frustration will set in and seek relief and what do we have but Jack to try and fix things with. I should start a thread “Are we tanking?” Yes or no Are we any hungrier than other teams that actually have goaltending? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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