Thorny Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, Pimlach said: What we get for Eichel better not be irrelevant. That is the talk of being willing to settle for less. The injury is clouding the fact that he is/was elite and in his prime. We have to stay the course and get something that makes us better now, but mostly better down the road. The days of being a doormat are ending and this trade is very important. I put almost nothing into all these rumors by writers and insiders. Why would any GM take Eichel now with the season started. Even if the team agreed to the ADR and Eichel is ready to go in February, they have to meet our demands and fit him into their cap. I hate to say it but I still see no 21-22 hockey season for Jack. If he files a grievance then that could change things. On 9/22/2021 at 9:21 AM, Thorny said: Been saying it forever - the fans have mentally written off Jack. That was part of KA's strategy. The fans have basically accepted the fact that Jack and the talent he represented is no longer a part of this organization. That's already been processed and accepted. So rather than him being viewed as what he still is, by far our greatest asset - and one we absolutely need to make GOOD on, he's already out the door, his dissatisfaction is a badge of honor for KA, and, as many have typed, the return on Jack is "just gravy" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I was hoping maybe he changed his mind seeing how good the team is right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: I was hoping maybe he changed his mind seeing how good the team is right now That Eichel changed his mind? About what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) Just now, Buffalonill said: I was hoping maybe he changed his mind seeing how good the team is right now He'd probably need to see a larger sample size before becoming "convinced": Jack has been on teams here who have gone on runs that have exceeded this one in duration Edited October 30, 2021 by Thorny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 17 hours ago, pi2000 said: fwiw, my source says nothing is imminent, what you're hearing in the media is an attempt by Eichel's agent to stoke a bidding war. I warned you guys yesterday, smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brawndo Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 59 minutes ago, Pimlach said: What we get for Eichel better not be irrelevant. That is the talk of being willing to settle for less. The injury is clouding the fact that he is/was elite and in his prime. We have to stay the course and get something that makes us better now, but mostly better down the road. The days of being a doormat are ending and this trade is very important. I put almost nothing into all these rumors by writers and insiders. Why would any GM take Eichel now with the season started. Even if the team agreed to the ADR and Eichel is ready to go in February, they have to meet our demands and fit him into their cap. I hate to say it but I still see no 21-22 hockey season for Jack. If he files a grievance then that could change things. Teams have to have the cap space to take on Jack’s remaining salary this year at the time of the trade call, then he can immediately be moved to LTIR. A Grievance Win that allows Him to have surgery ASAP would ultimately be beneficial to both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Curt said: That Eichel changed his mind? About what? Giving the team another try. Just imagine if he becomes healthy and we get into the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, bunomatic said: That's impressive. Is there some sort of "aging app"? If not that's brilliant Photoshopping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: That's impressive. Is there some sort of "aging app"? If not that's brilliant Photoshopping. Its a app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, Buffalonill said: Giving the team another try. Just imagine if he becomes healthy and we get into the playoffs Wouldn’t Eichel also need to change his mind about what type of surgery he wants? I doubt a few wins would change his opinion on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jävə Keith Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Giving the team another try. Just imagine if he becomes healthy and we get into the playoffs We want him gone. Doesn't matter what he wants. He is detrimental to the team, as a Captain he has proven to be a poor leader, self-centered, and our hope for a turnaround and long-term success is removing him from our organization. His elite talent does not justify keeping him. His negative leadership drives us further down the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) No cards. Just chicken scratch. The other night I decided I needed to get these guys clear(er) in my head. Edited October 30, 2021 by PASabreFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jävə Keith said: We want him gone. Doesn't matter what he wants. He is detrimental to the team, as a Captain he has proven to be a poor leader, self-centered, and our hope for a turnaround and long-term success is removing him from our organization. His elite talent does not justify keeping him. His negative leadership drives us further down the hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jävə Keith said: We want him gone. Doesn't matter what he wants. He is detrimental to the team, as a Captain he has proven to be a poor leader, self-centered, and our hope for a turnaround and long-term success is removing him from our organization. His elite talent does not justify keeping him. His negative leadership drives us further down the hole. This just what Thorny posted about. Over time, people have convinced themselves to something that they have no knowledge of, but it's convenient and easy to mentally rid themselves of Eichel. We heard the same about ROR to justify trading him and watching him with the Cup and Conn Smythe. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I SAID WE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 “Talks have cooled” is from Friedman this morning at the beginning of the 32 Thoughts podcast. The most interesting thing is that Marek admitted that he just threw Hague’s name out there because he likes him as a prospect, not that he had any info that he was in the deal. So there is no evidence that Hague has ever been in a Vegas deal at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I’m of the belief that Terry rubber stamped John’s ticket out of Buffalo. With that being said, I wonder when he says to KA, “enough is enough, get it done”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: “Talks have cooled” is from Friedman this morning at the beginning of the 32 Thoughts podcast. The most interesting thing is that Marek admitted that he just threw Hague’s name out there because he likes him as a prospect, not that he had any info that he was in the deal. So there is no evidence that Hague has ever been in a Vegas deal at all. Friedman is the jackass who has done the most to drive the narrative on this idiocy, and I wouldn't be surprised that 90% of what he writes is total BS. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 44 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: That's impressive. Is there some sort of "aging app"? If not that's brilliant Photoshopping. Thats meme thievery on my part. I couldn’t put together a picture of scrambled eggs with my tech acumen🥴 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Giving the team another try. Just imagine if he becomes healthy and we get into the playoffs He's had to wait months to get a life improving neck surgery because his Team won't let him dictate his medical treatment. He's not coming back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 57 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: No cards. Just chicken scratch. The other night I decided I needed to get these guys clear(er) in my head. Save this, the Analytics Department is expanding. 😂 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: I’m of the belief that Terry rubber stamped John’s ticket out of Buffalo. With that being said, I wonder when he says to KA, “enough is enough, get it done”. Never? 1 hour ago, jad1 said: Friedman is the jackass who has done the most to drive the narrative on this idiocy, and I wouldn't be surprised that 90% of what he writes is total BS. He's just reporting what Brisson tells him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: I’m of the belief that Terry rubber stamped John’s ticket out of Buffalo. With that being said, I wonder when he says to KA, “enough is enough, get it done”. But why would he do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, nfreeman said: But why would he do this? The same reason we all do. The endless stalemate benefits no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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