GASabresIUFAN Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, dudacek said: I think zucker would help and we can afford to use those assets, but I’d prefer we used them for a centre. I also think one of those assets needs to be dialed back; the Blues 2 and Nylander? P31 and CJ Smith? That’s basically what we paid for Montour and he’s 4 years younger and an RD. And on a longer more expensive contract. McDonald and Phanuef being bought out, any interest in Dion? Edited June 16, 2019 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: And on a longer more expensive contract. McDonald and Phanuef being bought out, any interest in Dion? McDonald on a 1 year 2.5 Million Deal would be a much better idea imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Brawndo said: McDonald on a 1 year 2.5 Million Deal would be a much better idea imo Think I'd rather have Scandella lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, TrueBlueGED said: Who did give us anything during that stretch? Why zero in on a 3rd liner? If he had performed the same way all season he'd have put up a top-6 season. Maybe a more equal distribution of those 35 points is what you're looking for, but that's just not how 3rd liners normally produce. In fact, I'd say the consistent 3rd liner is close to a myth Because it’s Sabrespace and it was his turn. ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Think I'd rather have Scandella lol No, you wouldn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Brawndo said: No, you wouldn’t Quick, do Risto....*ducks* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Quick, do Risto....*ducks* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 17 hours ago, Mustache of God said: I don't get the hate for Vesey. He was dead set on being a free agent and had every right to explore that option. The anger should be directed towards GMTM for the complete waste of an asset (yes a 3rd round pick is a slim shot) but was just a continuing trend of asset mismanagement by this organization. I'm curious to know what the exchange would be for him? His 17 G would was more than any Sabres not named Jack, Sam or Jeff last season. I'd be hesitant to be the 1st team to trade for Vesey, not because he spurned the Sabres, but because that team will be the 1st he plays for post playing for the dream team he WANTED to play for. Not expecting a Berglund situation, but wouldn't be surprised at all if he ended up pulling a Kozlov. Maybe his friendship with Eichel could overcome that, but wouldn't risk it unless the price was VERY low (like a 6th). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 18 hours ago, kas23 said: Really? Do you honestly think someone would say they still can’t sleep over that episode? Next time I’ll try to be more over the top and say that I’ve sending him daily bombs in the mail or have a life-sized effigy of him in my basement. Lol. nothing would surprise me on how people react. Honestly, once I read 'coddled little bitch' I didn't think anyone would be making a joke with such terrible statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 https://bluelinestation.com/2019/06/16/new-york-rangers-blueshirts-return-jimmy-vesey/ Option 1 : McCabe ( I think he has more value than Vesey, so the rags need to sweeten the pot) Option 2 : Scandella ( I throw in a 3rd rounder for them to take him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: https://bluelinestation.com/2019/06/16/new-york-rangers-blueshirts-return-jimmy-vesey/ Option 1 : McCabe ( I think he has more value than Vesey, so the rags need to sweeten the pot) Option 2 : Scandella ( I throw in a 3rd rounder for them to take him) Absolutely not for McCabe but I would do Scandella. . Vesey is a 3rd liner at best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 2:31 PM, kas23 said: That’ll show that coddled bitch. I’m still extremely pissed. Still can’t sleep Dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, freester said: Absolutely not for McCabe but I would do Scandella. . Vesey is a 3rd liner at best. lol, McCabe is going nowhere, he'll be re-signed here in Buffalo to be sure. Vesey for McCabe, I laughed so hard I pissed all over my depends lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 8 hours ago, nfreeman said: To return to the original premise: saying I’d rather have Vesey than Sheary isn’t “zeroing in” on Sheary. My point wasn’t that there is an urgent need to get rid of Sheary — I was just using Sheary as an example of someone the Sabres have that Vesey would represent an upgrade over. Except it was a bad example, unless you can provide something other than height ? I'm fine with adding Vesey. He's an NHL player who can chip in some much needed secondary scoring. But let's not pretend he's something he isn't. That's all I'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Huckleberry said: https://bluelinestation.com/2019/06/16/new-york-rangers-blueshirts-return-jimmy-vesey/ Option 1 : McCabe ( I think he has more value than Vesey, so the rags need to sweeten the pot) Option 2 : Scandella ( I throw in a 3rd rounder for them to take him) The writer of that article thinks more of McCabe than many on this board. McCabe is not the problem, he is part of the solution. The guy is a warrior. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Tondas said: The writer of that article thinks more of McCabe than many on this board. McCabe is not the problem, he is part of the solution. The guy is a warrior. I would rather keep him myself to , give him a 6x4mil deal even. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 I like McCabe too, but he has played less then sixty games the last two years. He’s not getting a six year deal till he proves he can stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 minute ago, tom webster said: I like McCabe too, but he has played less then sixty games the last two years. He’s not getting a six year deal till he proves he can stay healthy. That’s your opinion. Fine. That’s not how reality works. If it WAS how NHL GM’s thought, 85% of players wouldn’t get multi-year deals. Because almost every player gets injured and most players misses 3+ games a year because of it. I mean what exactly is the “cut off” between being injury prone and just getting injured? Is it anything less that 15 games a season is ok? And anything more than 15 and he’s not worth signing to a 4, 5, 6 year deal? 10 games? 20 games? And I bet the answer varies among what GM you ask, or fan for that matter. I get it... it’s just an opinion you have. But setting clear guidelines to who doesn’t and who does earn a multi-year deal is so so subjective. I personally wouldn’t hesitate a moment if McCabe agreed to a 5x4 or 6x4. He plays with snarl. And overall compared to someone like Bogo in the past 4 years ... is younger and healthier. Just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 Actually, missing over twenty games in each of last two seasons will hamper his ability to get a six year deal. And yes, everything I write is my opinion unless I quote someone but I appreciate that you feel it’s fine that I state my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, tom webster said: I like McCabe too, but he has played less then sixty games the last two years. He’s not getting a six year deal till he proves he can stay healthy. Even when healthy, I don't think he's been good enough to want to lock up for 6 years. I think it was 11 who originally suggested a few months ago not wanting to be the team to do this, and I'm with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) Wanting to sign McCabe long term is fine, though I think 6 years would be a bit excessive. The strange thing would be giving him $4M. His last contract was only for $1.6M, he has never surpassed 20 points, and has had some injury issues. I don’t think he will get over $2.5M and definitely no more than $3M. Edited June 17, 2019 by Curtisp5286 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 13 hours ago, nfreeman said: This is obnoxious. Your passive aggressive moderating of opinions you disagree with is obnoxious. But you already know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 8 hours ago, klos1963 said: nothing would surprise me on how people react. Honestly, once I read 'coddled little bitch' I didn't think anyone would be making a joke with such terrible statement. During the Vesey saga, for better or worse, pretty much everyone was throwing the word “coddled” around. This word was debated ad nauseum. The b-word part was mine. Sorry, it was a joke. I thought for sure this word would be properly filtered. You can take that up with the mods if you wish. This is the internet. Don’t take things so hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, tom webster said: Actually, missing over twenty games in each of last two seasons will hamper his ability to get a six year deal. And yes, everything I write is my opinion unless I quote someone but I appreciate that you feel it’s fine that I state my opinion. Ok. Since it seems you want to get snarky and mods took the night off .... listen I didn’t say it was fine to state your opinion. I said so that’s your opinion. Fine. Fine as in I read and I understand your opinion. And the reason I typed that is well ... you can message me if you want. It’s quite the story. Now, to add the “hamper” angle to your thought .... then yes, like any player, injury riddled seasons can hamper the ability to get longer term deals. Not impossible. But hamper or make it tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Who's Jimmy Vesey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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