inkman Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 At some point I need to stop being exasperated at the defeatist attitudes on 7/1. This day does not make or break the team folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 JBots confirmed they are still having talks with other teams and that his bonus has not been paid yet (doesn't have to be until midnight). Thanks. Did he say anything else about him (loss reception right after he spoke about the Wilson signing)? Still looking at any other UFA's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Also signed Brandon Hickey... at least JBots knows how to sign them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 It ain’t the Blues or Montreal. Where do you see it? Islanders need him desperately. Barzal will get crushed without JT. Minny has been quiet. We heard Philly and Carolina before, but they both made moves. I dunno. Barzal is special and carried that team when JT supposedly quit about halfway through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Thanks. Did he say anything else about him (loss reception right after he spoke about the Wilson signing)? Still looking at any other UFA's? He said they're still working but don't have anything coming up soon. My guess is he's waiting out some other names in free agency to see if they're still available when the money stops flowing. He also specifically said the team does plan on making more changes via trade and/or free agency at some point. So he's not done. You'd hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 He said they're still working but don't have anything coming up soon. My guess is he's waiting out some other names in free agency to see if they're still available when the money stops flowing. He also specifically said the team does plan on making more changes via trade and/or free agency at some point. So he's not done. You'd hope. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 From Eric Engels On the way out of his press conference, Marc Bergevin said to one reporter that the price tag to acquire Ryan O'Reilly from the Sabres is too high. "If the price changes, (Botterill) can call me." Sorry Marc that isn’t happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) I bet Risto will be the focus for a near term trade (Edmonton?). Wouldn't do this either. Sabres should make work what they have and add rather than subtract quality players. Was hoping for at least a couple of upgrades in free agency. Edited July 1, 2018 by jahnyc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) I have a hard time believing any of this actually matters on the ice. I'd also imagine every single other player on the team was unhappy in the middle of the season when we obviously sucked and had no chance at the playoffs. But O'Reilly vocalized it, so the knives came out for him. Whatever. As soon as the Canadian media smelled discontent by ROR, however justified, they got into overblown trade rumors faster than ROR gets into Tim Horton's. And even if it's not real, any GM that sees on TV can't afford to not throw something at Botterill to see if it sticks. Edited July 1, 2018 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 I have a hard time believing it's a good idea to keep a guy around who has publicly stated his unhappiness after 40/50 games in a season and been involved in trade talks for months. I like O'Reilly. I was ecstatic to have him and bummed when it started going down hill with him. But I do think moving him is the right move. At the end of the day, however, winning cures all. We'll see if keeping the exact same core and, basically, the exact same roster outside of the guy you got for getting lucky in the lottery is enough to take us from last to competitive. I'm skeptical. We'll see how the rest of the offseason goes but if it's just shuffling a few more mediocre bottom-six/AHL guys I will start having serious doubts about Botterill. I agree with much of what you said, but I keep going back and forth on O'Reilly. If it was even a fair return, I would rather see him moved. If he stays, I'm OK with it, but only if is usage is correct. He can't be the center on this team that gets the most even strength minutes. He can (and probably still should) get 18-19 minutes of ice time per game...but it should be 2nd or 3rd line minutes PLUS PP time PLUS PK time plus faceoffs at the end of periods games. Basically, even strength, I want Eichel to be getting 1-2 more minute of Ice time than ROR per game (hasn't happened yet) and HOPEFULLY by the end of the year Middlestadt will be getting at least equal even strenth minutes (maybe more). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Also signed Brandon Hickey... at least JBots knows how to sign them...OMG is this some sort of veiled shot at GMTM. when does it end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 OMG is this some sort of veiled shot at GMTM. when does it end. Until we make the playoffs and win a series or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Until we make the playoffs and win a series or two. It won't end there. This fan base is incorrigible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 I agree with much of what you said, but I keep going back and forth on O'Reilly. If it was even a fair return, I would rather see him moved. If he stays, I'm OK with it, but only if is usage is correct. He can't be the center on this team that gets the most even strength minutes. He can (and probably still should) get 18-19 minutes of ice time per game...but it should be 2nd or 3rd line minutes PLUS PP time PLUS PK time plus faceoffs at the end of periods games. Basically, even strength, I want Eichel to be getting 1-2 more minute of Ice time than ROR per game (hasn't happened yet) and HOPEFULLY by the end of the year Middlestadt will be getting at least equal even strenth minutes (maybe more). If you take away his locker cleanout comments and overall mopey demeanor that may be part of the problem in the room, you'd say the earliest we'd ever want to trade this guy is next summer. Keeping him gives us a strong 1-2 punch at center and lets Lord Casey have a much easier first full year in the NHL either as the 3C or on the wing. He should have just as good a year this coming year, if not better, with the improved blue line and injection of talent on the team via Dahlin, Mittelstadt, Sheary, Guhle, and whoever else makes the cut. By 2019-2020, maybe we're good with Eichel and Casey as 1-2 with Asplund at 3C full-time. But all that said, I'd prefer to move him for the right return just to clear out whatever drama was holding us back. It's just easier said than done -- especially when you're talking about making an additional move for a center. I'd rather do nothing than do something stupid, especially given how tough our division is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7+6=13 Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 It won't end there. This fan base is incorrigible. What fan base isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie 7m7 minutes ago More Islanders in on O'Reilly trade talks with Buffalo, we are told. Center is owed $7.5M bonus by midnight. Return package obviously would change from today to tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie 7m7 minutes agoMore Islanders in on O'Reilly trade talks with Buffalo, we are told. Center is owed $7.5M bonus by midnight. Return package obviously would change from today to tomorrow. It's Larry Brooks. The American counterpart to Bruce Garrioch. He could be right and he could be making it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 It's Larry Brooks. The American counterpart to Bruce Garrioch. He could be right and he could be making it up. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 FWIW, that Eklund guy says something in the works with the Islanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 So he's definitely going to the Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Islanders are obviously a team JBot May have been waiting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Could all be speculation but it does make sense. The Islanders just make the biggest free agent mistake in more than a decade. This is their Black Sunday. So you'd think they'd want to do something bold to give their fans some hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 FWIW, that Eklund guy says something in the works with the Islanders. I trust Callaway's source considerably more than Eklund. And I don't trust Callaway's source at all (no offense to you personally). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 So he's definitely going to the Blues Or will finish his contract with the Sabres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Chad DeDominicis Tweeted out Kieffer Bellows wishful thinking or did his source give him a heads up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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