Brawndo Posted July 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: How? They're only slightly less than $5 million under the cap now... I know, I know, Stevie Y and his magic cap wand. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: How? They're only slightly less than $5 million under the cap now... I know, I know, Stevie Y and his magic cap wand. Or something. They'll have to trade either Tyler Johnson or Ondrej Palat. I think the market would be pretty high for either of those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Briere48 said: They'll have to trade either Tyler Johnson or Ondrej Palat. I think the market would be pretty high for either of those guys. I'm always down to bring in more quality wingers from playoff teams as cap casualties ? Edited July 4, 2018 by Samson's Flow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 4, 2018 Report Share Posted July 4, 2018 Maybe we could acquire Palat or Johnson for the higher of the St.L and SJS picks as a base. After all they will likely be hemorrhaging assets to get Karlsson and will need a 1st more than likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Fire up the let’s trade for a winger scenarios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, Brawndo said: Fire up the let’s trade for a winger scenarios Come to me Palat. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Any of about 10 of their forwards would be huge upgrades to our top 6. If they move 3-4 guys and we don't get any I'm going to be pissed. If we do get one I feel a lot better about Botterill's notions for this coming season itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Fire up the let’s trade for a winger scenarios I would guess that means that salary would be going back the other way. I think Tyler Johnson would be 1 of the players. I would also guess Cal Foote would be going. Johnson, Foote, easily a 1st round pick, probably a 2nd rounder, and something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) This is exactly the type of scenario we have been hoping for and are in a position to take advantage of. EDIT: I’m talking the guys squeezed out of Tampa by Karlsson, not Karlsson himself. Edited July 5, 2018 by dudacek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, dudacek said: This is exactly the type of scenario we have been hoping for and are in a position to take advantage of. EDIT: I’m talking the guys squeezed out of Tampa by Karlsson, not Karlsson himself. Having three first round picks sure could come in handy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I think Ondrej Palat could be a player that they move. Maybe a 1st and a prospect gets that done. Maybe just a 1st, really depends on Karlsson's new contract. I think TB can slide 1 year while paying for Karlsson without having to really ship out much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Didn’t the Sens make a big deal about getting a lesser package and not sending Mike Hoffman within the division? But trading Karlsson within the division is no big deal? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Briere48 said: Didn’t the Sens make a big deal about getting a lesser package and not sending Mike Hoffman within the division? But trading Karlsson within the division is no big deal? Interesting. It's the Senators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 My money is on the Sabres essentially being done for this offseason and won’t be in on any TB cap fallout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 The return from the Lightning would have to be astronomical. The Senators will struggle enough losing Karlsson, but putting him in your own division will only add to the pain. What a mess they have created. The Lightning have a ton of players with NMC/NTC. Who in their right mind is going to WANT to go to Ottawa? This means they have to move players who are not protected. Kucherov has no protections and neither does JT Miller, who they just signed. If you total up the rest of the roster that is not protected it barely clears enough cap space for Karlsson. One would think it might include another team so that the player from the Lightning might be willing to waive their NTC/NMC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Don't think any player from Tampa will want to come here, But Killorn and Palat would be of interest to us it seems. But wouldn't offer more than a 2nd and a prospect. Could also see them trying to dump the Callahan contract on us, but then I want Erne involved. Hmm thought he was better than this. Maybe something like Killorn + Callahan for our 3rd and Bailey dunno. Edited July 5, 2018 by Huckleberry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, Weave said: My money is on the Sabres essentially being done for this offseason and won’t be in on any TB cap fallout. I think Tampa should be able to mostly stand pat this summer. Karlsson’s raise doesn’t kick in until next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, LTS said: The return from the Lightning would have to be astronomical. The Senators will struggle enough losing Karlsson, but putting him in your own division will only add to the pain. What a mess they have created. The Lightning have a ton of players with NMC/NTC. Who in their right mind is going to WANT to go to Ottawa? This means they have to move players who are not protected. Kucherov has no protections and neither does JT Miller, who they just signed. If you total up the rest of the roster that is not protected it barely clears enough cap space for Karlsson. One would think it might include another team so that the player from the Lightning might be willing to waive their NTC/NMC. And on top of all of that, they're bottoming out in the year where they don't even get their own first round draft pick. It's the perfect storm of stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Samson's Flow said: It's the Senators. After that last move blew up in their face I'm sure they are just going to try and get the best deal possible now 1 hour ago, Weave said: My money is on the Sabres essentially being done for this offseason and won’t be in on any TB cap fallout. I lean that way too. We as fans think they should do something or be in on these moves, but I dont think that JBott and the front office feel the same way. They ate going to continue the slow rebuild using picks and waiting for their prospects to develop. They dont want to give up picks or prospects in deals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just saw a Tweet from ... someone ... saying their best source with the highest "batting average" said Karlsson to the Lightning, book it. Also said a third team may be involved for salary-movement purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 31 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Just saw a Tweet from ... someone ... saying their best source with the highest "batting average" said Karlsson to the Lightning, book it. Also said a third team may be involved for salary-movement purposes. That tweet was mentioned above. It's also been backed up by a couple other reporters saying they're hearing the same thing. For the record, I do not think we'll be getting involved here. Tampa will be able to find value by sending somebody out of the division and, as mentioned before, won't really need to clear much this offseason to get him in. Next offseason becomes very expensive and tricky, but they could make a big run and then dump salary next offseason for similar value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hoss said: That tweet was mentioned above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 A triplet and Callahan for SJS's 1st and Sabotka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger Tampa Bay and Ottawa continue to work on an Erik Karlsson trade. The NYR may be involved as Lightning need cap room. Callahan back to NY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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