Eleven Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Depends on how much he likes playing hockey, I guess. He's made at least $22M in the last four years, it's not like the other $3M is going to make or break him. It's about $3M this year and $5M next. So about 35% of that $22M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I thought third-year pros were exempt, but Thorny may be right. The only benefit the minors would have for Eichel and Reinhart is getting them away from the current poisonous atmosphere. But if they aren’t able to persevere through it - it’s absurd to suggest they aren’t NHL players right now - then I don’t want them anyway. I think some AHL time would be good for learning some humility and some appreciation for their opportunity to play in the NHL and for the need to play the game the right way in all areas. Now we just have to hope he refuses to report and retires. I doubt it will happen, but there's still a chance. His cap hit is $5m this year and next. His actual take home pay in the AHL this year is $5m, but next year it's only $3m, so maybe he plays out the year then hangs it up. There is zero possibility of him walking away from $3MM, let alone $8MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 It's too bad -- I think they both would benefit from some AHL time. when you think you've read the worst take ever, another one comes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 when you think you've read the worst take ever, another one comes around. :doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 when you think you've read the worst take ever, another one comes around. Steak should always be cooked well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 A ###### watered down beer, that some people like.Light beer is like having sex in a canoe. F##king close to water. Steak should always be cooked well doneThis is sarcasm right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Light beer is like having sex in a canoe. F##king close to water. This is sarcasm right? It's the actual worst take of all time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Housley on Moulson: "Jason and his agent are working on some options but that's as much as I know at this point." #Sabres Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Blizzard Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Does anyone know the 2018-19 cap implications if Moulson retires ? 1- If he reports and no buyout, cap hit is $4.125M 2- If he gets bought out it's $3.667M ($.667M in 2019-20) 3- Retires ? Edited December 5, 2017 by Georgia Blizzard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 The contract and cap hit disappear completely if he retires I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickompositör72 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) There is zero possibility of him walking away from $3MM, let alone $8MM. Some posters here say the darndest things... "he's rich; $3 million isn't that much to him, right?" Other favorite: "what if he moves to the KHL?" Yes, he's going to uproot his family, after he just bought a house and settled in an area not to far from where he grew up, to move to the other side of the world where he doesn't know anyone and doesn't speak the language, to play hockey for a couple of years. Why wouldn't he? Edited December 5, 2017 by ericcomposer72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Some posters here say the darndest things... "he's rich; $3 million isn't that much to him, right?" Other favorite: "what if he moves to the KHL?" Yes, he's going to uproot his family, after he just bought a house and settled in an area not to far from where he grew up, to move to the other side of the world where he doesn't know anyone and doesn't speak the language, to play hockey for a couple of years. Why wouldn't he? For the first one, yeah. Maybe after riding the AHL bus for 5 months and taking cheap shots from guys trying to make a name for themselves, he says, "I'm getting too old for this smurf" and retires, leaving 12% of the contract on the table and retires comfortably on the money he has. Does that really seem that impossible? On the flip side, maybe MM has spent a ton of his money on team dinners and doing the math figures he can't live the life he wants on what he has left and when an offer comes in from Locomotiv METALursk for $5M/yr, he goes for it. Also not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Some posters here say the darndest things... "he's rich; $3 million isn't that much to him, right?" Other favorite: "what if he moves to the KHL?" Yes, he's going to uproot his family, after he just bought a house and settled in an area not to far from where he grew up, to move to the other side of the world where he doesn't know anyone and doesn't speak the language, to play hockey for a couple of years. Why wouldn't he? I think the language barrier might be a deterrent, although many Americans play in the KHL now. Moving and selling a house is part of the biz ... what if Moulson had been traded ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Housley on Moulson: "Jason and his agent are working on some options but that's as much as I know at this point." #Sabres Interesting Options? What options are there to discuss? Either he reports or he retires. Or is this one of those "retire and take a front office job" kinda things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I think the language barrier might be a deterrent, although many Americans play in the KHL now. Moving and selling a house is part of the biz ... what if Moulson had been traded ? Oh, and house: I doubt he moves his family. At least I wouldn't unless they want the experience of living abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Options? What options are there to discuss? Either he reports or he retires. Or is this one of those "retire and take a front office job" kinda things? Why couldn't there be a workable trade for MM where we retain most of the salary ? If a team had claimed him, they would've been responsible for all of his salary for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Options? What options are there to discuss? Either he reports or he retires. Or is this one of those "retire and take a front office job" kinda things? Harrington speculating they may be attempting to work out a trade, yeah I’m laughing as I type this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Why couldn't there be a workable trade for MM where we retain most of the salary ? If a team had claimed him, they would've been responsible for all of his salary for this year. Harrington speculating they may be attempting to work out a trade, yeah I’m laughing as I type this I just can't see ANYONE actually wanting Moulson to play hockey for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 The discount on that cap hit next year might look appetizing to a certain cap floor dwelling franchise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramps Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I just can't see ANYONE actually wanting Moulson to play hockey for them. I dunno about that ... might breath new life into the old dog. Maybe the Isles will take him back for a song and dance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 The discount on that cap hit next year might look appetizing to a certain cap floor dwelling franchise... There might be a taker for $2.5M cap hit / $1.5M actual salary MM that wouldn't pay the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I dunno about that ... might breath new life into the old dog. Maybe the Isles will take him back for a song and dance ? No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 when you think you've read the worst take ever, another one comes around. Do you think Reino and Eichel look like mature, consistent, motivated leaders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Why couldn't there be a workable trade for MM where we retain most of the salary ? If a team had claimed him, they would've been responsible for all of his salary for this year. Max retention is 50% per the CBA. Even if we retain half, Moulson stinks bad enough that even at $1.5 million in salary and a $2.5 million cap hit, he's way overpaid for his zero point production. The best we could possibly hope for (other than him choosing to retire after he collects his $1 million signing bonus on July, 1, 2018 is that a team takes him at that point after we retain 50%. At that point the team who takes him would only pay him $1 million for the season and they'd get a $2.5 million cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Do you think Reino and Eichel look like mature, consistent, motivated leaders?They don't look mature, consistent, motivated, or leader like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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