MattPie Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 It's all a moot point anyway. I have it on good authority that Casey Mittelstadt will play goalie as well as 1st line center simultaneously as soon as he graces us with his presence. He'll score 10 goals a game while also getting 98 shutouts on the way to the first ever perfect season. He can do that because he's the exception to "the puck moves faster than the player". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 It's all a moot point anyway. I have it on good authority that Casey Mittelstadt will play goalie as well as 1st line center simultaneously as soon as he graces us with his presence. He'll score 10 goals a game while also getting 98 shutouts on the way to the first ever perfect season. More like there will be no need for a goalie when Casey is on the ice because he will never lose the puck and the other team won't ever get to our zone. Might as well pull the goalie to pad our +/- stats and give a +1 for the extra player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I have often said I find Lehner to be unspectacular in every way. I feel the exact same way about Johnson, and I don't think it particularly matters which is in net. Each one is gonna give you a softie every start, and neither is gonna steal you much of anything. Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Dudaeck hit on a really good point about the Sabres 'needing the calmness of CJ and not the 'fire' of Lehner. Is it better to play CJ on the road where calmness can be more of an asset and Lehner more at home where fire can be beneficial with the crowd etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I've said before that I think the players prefer Johnson, and I'm sticking to it. Uh. No one else gonna grab this one? It's too low-hanging fruit for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Uh. No one else gonna grab this one? It's too low-hanging fruit for me. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skibum Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Chad is rad. But I also thought Nilsson was the better goalie last year, and Lehner still got the contract. When I watch Lehner, I don't see a #1 NHL goalie - but at season's end, he put up worthy numbers last year. So I just don't know. Edited October 16, 2017 by Skibum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Lehner is most likely in his final season with the Sabres IMO. I think next season we'll see Ullmark for sure. As for the other goalie......FA or trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Jones Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 If you start playing Chad over Lehner, Lehner's going to get all moody and we will lose him for the season. I predict Lehner is traded before the end of the season and not for much. There are a number of potential free agent goalies on the market for 2018 if they don't like Ullmark. I expect them to keep drafting goalies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 So this whole discussion comes up as a result of a single win? Neither goalie has done anything to distinguish himself from the other. Lehner's played an extra 100 minutes and has slightly better numbers, but Johnson has that magic number in the win column. I've got a word that describes this situation much better than controversy does. That word is "blah". Right now there's a whole lot of nothing from the position. Agreed. Some under whelming hockey being played all the way around. If you start playing Chad over Lehner, Lehner's going to get all moody and we will lose him for the season. I predict Lehner is traded before the end of the season and not for much. There are a number of potential free agent goalies on the market for 2018 if they don't like Ullmark. I expect them to keep drafting goalies. Interesting point about his Psyche, might very well be right given his volatile nature. I do agree though about how Jbot may likely handle the situation going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 first post here. linus for sure for me. chad is a backup at best and robin should just be released i think. i am a big fan of linus ullmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 first post here. linus for sure for me. chad is a backup at best and robin should just be released i think. i am a big fan of linus ullmark Welcome! I've been and still am an Ullmark guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Supposedly Ullmark is progressing exactly the way you'd want to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Lehner got the 1 year deal to prove his worth to JBot. He will have to play really well to get a long term deal. I think Ullmark is here next year, just not sure if he will be the backup or given a shot at #1. There may be a situation where he is competing with another guy (UFA) for the #1 job. We may have 2 potential starters vying for top spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 first post here. linus for sure for me. chad is a backup at best and robin should just be released i think. i am a big fan of linus ullmark Welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Uh. No one else gonna grab this one? It's too low-hanging fruit for me. In the immortal words of Roger Murtaugh, I'm gettin too old for this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Chad is rad. But I also thought Nilsson was the better goalie last year, and Lehner still got the contract. When I watch Lehner, I don't see a #1 NHL goalie - but at season's end, he put up worthy numbers last year. So I just don't know. Unfortunately I think the nice numbers put up by Lehner and Nillson last year and in previous years were a product of the defensive shell tactic that we employed regularly. The Sabres actively gave up our blueline last year as a tradeoff for keeping shots to low-risk areas, which pumped up our goaltending SV% and made both of our league average goalies appear better statistically. I was expecting a pretty strong negative adjustment this year when they start facing more high-risk chances. As we have seen so far in the small sample size of the regular season thus far, Lehner looks really bad on 2 on 1 opportunities and opponent chances from the slot/in close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) I'm in the anyone but Lehner camp. The guy just does not instill confidence. Sucks at shootouts, doesn't cover side to side very well IMO. From what little chance I get to see him/them play. Edited October 17, 2017 by ddaryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Start Johnson, bring up Ullmark, find a taker for Lehner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 So we all know Lehner and Johnson are going to get 95% of the starts this season barring injury with Lehner most likely getting 75% of the starts right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Blizzard Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 So much of goal tending is what's between the ears. I just don't see Lehner having the mental fortitude to be a true #1 on a playoff team. I think his mental game is weak. JBot realized this and signed him for 1-year and traded a 4rd to VGK to protect Ullmark after CP didn't sign. Still surprised that Petersen didn't sign, he had a relatively clear path to #1 goalie in 1-2 years, while in LA, it's Quick's net for 5-6 years. CP won't see that net until 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Uh. No one else gonna grab this one? It's too low-hanging fruit for me. Well, you're no Derek Roy, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Is this still a topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 We need a goalie that isn't one of these two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) I wanted Chad to start even though I expected the game he had. The team needs to know that his good play isnt being ignored, it's just that he isn't usually capable of putting up back-to-back good games. Lehner is, and that's why he's the better choice, if not the right guy. There are a number of fans who too easily overlook these kind of games from Chad. Edited October 18, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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