pi2000 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 People always ask me about Will Butcher, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Will Butcher. I know everything about Will Butcher. I love Will Butcher. No one loves Will Butcher more than me, BELIEVE ME. We're going to have so many Will Butchers you are going to get sick of Will Butcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Binghamton wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ct fab Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Oh God, Binghamton and Newark, can't get any worse than that. No really Oh God, Binghamton and Newark, can't get any worse than that. No really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 People always ask me about Will Butcher, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Will Butcher. I know everything about Will Butcher, he's going to be huge. I love Will Butcher. No one loves Will Butcher more than me, BELIEVE ME. We're going to have so many Will Butchers you are going to get sick of Will Butcher.Lol I see what you did. Well played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Regarding Dumoulin vs Butcher, this is what I have  http://45b.us/hockey/2.php?year=2013,2009&pick=123,51  And it's true, Butcher gets a big deduction for being 5'9 1/2 at age 17 (that's what I have anyway), so I created a new chart called 2flat, everyone's size doesn't matter, so there's no deduction for Butcher's size  http://45b.us/hockey/2flat.php?year=2013,2009&pick=123,51  He's still well behind Dumoulin using my charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 The New Jersey Devils have signed defenseman Will Butcher to a two-year, entry-level contract that will pay him an annual average of $925,000 per year, the team announced on Sunday. Â https://www.fanragsports.com/news/devils-sign-will-butcher-2-year-deal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well that took up a few days, back to a boring 5 weeks.... oh wait training camp and that junior tournament is just around the corner... finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Thus needed a new thread? :lol: Apologies ink. I should have consulted you before I posted the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Apologies ink. I should have consulted you before I posted the thread. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well that took up a few days, back to a boring 5 weeks.... oh wait training camp and that junior tournament is just around the corner... finally. And guess who's coming to town for the prospects tournament? Â Yep. Â Will. Butcher. Â People always ask me about Will Butcher, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Will Butcher. I know everything about Will Butcher. I love Will Butcher. No one loves Will Butcher more than me, BELIEVE ME. We're going to have so many Will Butchers you are going to get sick of Will Butcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 People always ask me about Will Butcher, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Will Butcher. I know everything about Will Butcher, he's going to be huge. I love Will Butcher. No one loves Will Butcher more than me, BELIEVE ME. We're going to have so many Will Butchers you are going to get sick of Will Butcher. #fake news #dishonest media #lock em up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Hey Will, can we get our hockey bag back, at least? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Good luck to the prima donna 5'9 defenseman. Edited August 28, 2017 by Marvelo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 NJ are so awful that he will be their best d-man...we are suddenly blessed with a wealth of good defensemen so it probably was his best move...truth is we do not need him at this point...Guhle is way ahead of this guy in terms of talent and potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) @BDubi17 The college free agency situation in the @NHL needs to be figured out...it's a joke especially to the guys that play major junior  @BDubi17 I bet teams that make the draft pick would agree with me as well!  @BDubi17 Let me clarify...I want players to have all options they can when they sign a contract major junior players can't and it's not fair thats it   That's Brandon Dubinsky's official twitter account Edited August 28, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Here's the thing... Major Junior Guys only play 2-3 years more of major junior before they either get a deal and move to the AHL/NHL or they stop playing hockey. College guys have to play 4 years.  I think the rule should be changed. You go 4 years and won't sign with your team, fine. You are eligible for UFA status 1 year later on July 1. Make them sit a year, no AHL either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 I believe, for the NHL, it's not a 'fairness to the teams' issue, it's a 13th amendment issue (yeah, I'm going to make you look it up). The NHL has something that seems to be settled law, therefore they have no interest in giving the opportunity to have to defend a rule in court that they currently do need to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017  @BDubi17 The college free agency situation in the @NHL needs to be figured out...it's a joke especially to the guys that play major junior  @BDubi17 I bet teams that make the draft pick would agree with me as well!  @BDubi17 Let me clarify...I want players to have all options they can when they sign a contract major junior players can't and it's not fair thats it   That's Brandon Dubinsky's official twitter account   College guy goes 4 years after becoming draft eligible and he's a free agent. Major junior guy goes 4 years after becoming draft eligible and he's a free agent.  That's exactly the same. The only difference is that the major junior guy can re-enter the draft after two years while the college guy cannot. The only thing he could possibly be getting at with those comments is the AHL restriction. If he's got an issue with that, it's time to talk to the CHL about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 @BDubi17 The college free agency situation in the @NHL needs to be figured out...it's a joke especially to the guys that play major junior   @BDubi17 I bet teams that make the draft pick would agree with me as well!   @BDubi17 Let me clarify...I want players to have all options they can when they sign a contract major junior players can't and it's not fair thats it    That's Brandon Dubinsky's official twitter account  This is an example of why the NHLPA never stands a chance come CBA negotiation time. Union members arguing (in favor of management) against the bargained for rights of others. The real question here is why should kids from Junior have to go back in the draft?  Of course, fixing that would require work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 College guy goes 4 years after becoming draft eligible and he's a free agent. Major junior guy goes 4 years after becoming draft eligible and he's a free agent.  That's exactly the same. The only difference is that the major junior guy can re-enter the draft after two years while the college guy cannot. The only thing he could possibly be getting at with those comments is the AHL restriction. If he's got an issue with that, it's time to talk to the CHL about it. Difference is the junior guy most likely wasn't going to get picked up by original drafting team while the College guy has a choice. You don't like the team that picked you, you enter this years draft again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Difference is the junior guy most likely wasn't going to get picked up by original drafting team while the College guy has a choice. You don't like the team that picked you, you enter this years draft again.  Sorry, but I'm not clear on what you're saying here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Sorry, but I'm not clear on what you're saying here. Â I think: if you're drafted out of CHL and refuse to sign with your drafting team in two years, I think you end up back in the draft. Repeat that for another two years, and you can't go back into the draft at 22-ish, so you're UFA? Same effect I guess (UFA at 22-ish) but I don't know if I've heard of it happening. Unless you count Lindros' ultimatum or the Lemiuex in Winnipeg's system that said he'd not sign with Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 I think: if you're drafted out of CHL and refuse to sign with your drafting team in two years, I think you end up back in the draft. Repeat that for another two years, and you can't go back into the draft at 22-ish, so you're UFA? Same effect I guess (UFA at 22-ish) but I don't know if I've heard of it happening. Unless you count Lindros' ultimatum or the Lemiuex in Winnipeg's system that said he'd not sign with Buffalo.  I can't think of any high profile cases where someone refused to sign and wound up back in the draft. It happens plenty of times with guys the teams aren't interested in signing though. But anyway, if what you're saying was jsb's point, that's exactly what I said above. Both players wind up as free agents after 4 years, but the CHL guy re-enters the draft after 2. So he actually winds up with slightly more say in the matter than the college guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 IMO he should cherish that Hobey Baker. May well be the only thing he ever wins. Is it the player that gets us to pine away? The unfettered hope that this guy or the next is part of the Cup team? TBO I didn't know very much about him so I looked into him a bit. Meh. Good for NJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 IMO he should cherish that Hobey Baker. May well be the only thing he ever wins. Is it the player that gets us to pine away? The unfettered hope that this guy or the next is part of the Cup team? TBO I didn't know very much about him so I looked into him a bit. Meh. Good for NJ. Holzinger won the Hobey Baker & also not only failed to check Hull but ALSO managed to obstruct the ref's view which allowed the league to move the decision upstairs. We all know how that turned out. The LAST thing I'd look for is a Hobey Baker. Some winners are awesome, and some are Dawesome. (No, Jason Dawe did not win an HB. :p) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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