Sabre fan Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Okay, so we have improved somewhat, with some additions that do not seem too bad on paper. Our defense should be light years ahead of last year, and Howie should bring a fresh exciting system that should make for extra points compared to last year's under Disco Danny. Another year for our young guys is good too , so there seems reason to believe or hope we can compete for a playoff spot. Having said that, the Leafs seem poised to be good again, both the devils and Hurricane both keep adding and seem on the way up, while Philly surely can't be as bad as last year. Where exactly does that leave us? That does not leave too many weak teams in our conference and just getting to .500 hockey may not be so easy. What do you all think? Can we, will we, could we, or will we not be there at the end of the year? My thinking is we may get close but not so sure we'll be playing for Lord Stanley's Cup this year yet again. Hope I am wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 I have hope. Hope is good. Reality says that the roster has improved. We have a new coach that will be instilling a new system, which will take time for the players to learn. It will take time for it all to mesh together, which may be too long this coming season. So, as of now I will predict a playoff cusp, but in the end I think they will fall just short (I hope I am wrong), which will be a great improvement over the last several years. I will also say that I expect the Sabres to be 'in' most games and will play a far more entertaining style of hockey, which is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 I'd put us within 5 points of the last wild card spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 We better. Barring a catastrophic injury, I'm expecting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Most of the reason we're making the playoffs this year was already on the roster last year. Growth from Eichel/Reinhart, and Hot Daniel's death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 The good news is, Montreal should be worse...and that's about it for our division :lol: Everyone else in our division will likely be better (Tampa, Florida), if not then as good in some cases (Boston, Toronto) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Last year took too much out of me. New players, new coach, new philosophy, I'm guessing right about the time they start gelling it'll be too late. More exciting to watch no doubt, better defensively no doubt, bringing some joy back into my hockey life no doubt. Playoffs??? I'm not going to set myself up for disappointment again but I'm also guessing that sometime in October, I'll be full in again. Now.... no way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 Playoffs or else. As every season should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 The good news is, Montreal should be worse...and that's about it for our division :lol: Everyone else in our division will likely be better (Tampa, Florida), if not then as good in some cases (Boston, Toronto) Moe-ray-all & the Otters should take a step back & the Dead Things should be back in the city just due north of Canada. Would expect a small step back from the B's & Loafs but wouldn't have money on either happening. Sabres should've been there last year, so no reason they can't get there this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) I think they'll have a slow start as they learn Dr. Phil's Firewagon Hockey. Lehner will certainly face more odd-man breaks, and b-ways. Probably will be more fun to watch, but the problem is Lehner isn't Pekka Rinne, and that's going to be an issue with the firewagon brand of hockey. Edited July 3, 2017 by pi2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 The subtraction of Disco and the Whiteboards (dibs on this one for my indie band name) should be worth a few points even before we start talking about improvements to the roster, which I don't think JBOT is done tinkering with yet anyway. Playoffs, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 3, 2017 Report Share Posted July 3, 2017 We better. Barring a catastrophic injury, I'm expecting it Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7+6=13 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 We had 60 combined games missed by our top 4 offensive players. Injuries always happen but that's pretty hard to overcome. I think if that number is cut in half, the additions and the new coaching - we should be a playoff team. We look poised to be one of those teams that the rest of the league thinks comes from nowhere but we'll know it should have been closer to that all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I'm optimistic but realistic, on one hand I feel the coaching should be better, the players are a year mature, the defense should be much better and the realist side of me is saying although i love the Housley hire as HC, doesn't mean it will work out at all. Plus we've lost Ennis/Foligno/Gionta and Gained Pomminstein/Pouliot so that's a downgrade in my eyes. If the key players can stay healthy there's no reason we shouldn't make the playoffs, also , I'm not a Lehner fan, he'll really need to up his game this year because right now he's not a good enough playoff goalie to compete for a Cup imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 They better....tired of losing teams in this city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Yea, we can make the playoffs. Will we? That is up to the players and coaching staff. I'm hopeful Housely and staff institute a system that really lets the players strengths shine. But I have confidence the talent on this team can destroy any opponent in the league if they commit to doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 On paper the team is better. We are significantly better on defense assuming health (Scandella and Bogo), and adjustment to a new system and/or new league. An improved D should lead to lower goals against and therefore a better chance to win games. A healthy Eichel should add more offense, but the weak LW is very much a concern. Hopefully Pouliot gets back to his 35 pt form upgrading the LW offense beyond what Foligno gave. Losing Foligno's physical game might end up being a significant loss. We have swapped Gionta for Pommers which is a slight upgrade. We also need at least one kid to step up and replace/upgrade Carrier. Baptiste/Bailey/Fasching/ERod may never get a better chance to prove they are NHL players. Overall team speed is improved. So can this team make the playoffs? It's going to be hard. Montreal is worse but still has Price. Boston's young and improving D should keep them in contention. Toronto's kids should continue to improve, but the signing of Marleau is pure stupid. Tampa gets a healthy Stamkos back and an improved D. Florida is still young, but losing a 30 goal scorer to expansion hurts. Detroit is not a contender, while Ottawa is. IMHO we are the 5th or 6th best team in our division on paper. I think TB, Tor, Bos & Ott and maybe Fl have more talent. To contend we need to outplay Mon, Fl and and at least one of TB, Tor, Bos and Ott. That's a lot to ask given our limited improvement up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Has JBOT, or Gionta, actually said that he won't be back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Has JBOT, or Gionta, actually said that he won't be back?No. Post July 1, according to JBot there remained some level of mutual interest.Sabres could use one more wing. However, I think JBot would prefer a speedier player on the left side, Edited July 4, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 On paper we have improved our D, Offensively we haven't changed, but they will have to improve our goal scoring and the PP should be top 10 again this year. If Lehner can have better sucess in the shoutout, I say yes, we will make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 No. Post July 1, according to JBot there remained some level of mutual interest. Sabres could use one more wing. However, I think JBot would prefer a speedier player on the left side, I never got the impression that Gionta has lost much speed. I felt that his speed was still an effective part of his game. He's lost some of his finishing ability. Maybe I'm wrong here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I never got the impression that Gionta has lost much speed. I felt that his speed was still an effective part of his game. He's lost some of his finishing ability. Maybe I'm wrong here? Agreed, seems ok in corners but not scoring well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I never got the impression that Gionta has lost much speed. I felt that his speed was still an effective part of his game. He's lost some of his finishing ability. Maybe I'm wrong here? I don't think his speed is a detriment. I'm just going from Botterill's quote about wanting to add more speed up front. I think he has an iron or two in the fire and he wants to see what happens there before returning to Gionta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 The secret is telling them at the beginning of the game that there are 8 minutes left and they are behind by 2 goals. Seriously, that team last year with their backs to the wall just dominated. That proves to me that the talent is there and that they were held back by coaching. When they were forced to open things up they were nearly always the better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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