nfreeman Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 I just think there's more to this story. Adverse effects are a common occurrence. Ones that land you in the neurological ICU for days are extremely rare. We're not talking "this drug made me dizzy". We're talking stroke and the likes. Exactly. We are far away from feeling comfortable that KO will be playing this fall, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 What are the cap implications if KO career is over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 What are the cap implications if KO career is over? He'd go on LTIR and wouldn't count against the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 What are the cap implications if KO career is over? I think the Sabres are fine, right? He goes on LITR and the Sabres can spend his cap hit on someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 I just think there's more to this story. Adverse effects are a common occurrence. Ones that land you in the neurological ICU for days are extremely rare. We're not talking "this drug made me dizzy". We're talking stroke and the likes. But, who knows. Maybe he became dizzy in the shower, slipped, hit his head and suffered a brain bleed. I wonder if he was on something like Lamictal after his concussion. It is used for migraines and seizures. That can cause a potentially fatal Stevens Johnson syndrome. While scary, once treated, I don't think would impact him playing next year and I would still worry more about his concussion history than the SJS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 I wonder if he was on something like Lamictal after his concussion. It is used for migraines and seizures. That can cause a potentially fatal Stevens Johnson syndrome. While scary, once treated, I don't think would impact him playing next year and I would still worry more about his concussion history than the SJS. It can definitely cause toxic epidermal necrolysis (bad form of SJS), but that doesn't cause you to be admitted to a neuro ICU (maybe the burn unit if anything). The list that causes you to end up in neuro ICU is not lengthy. We can rule out brain tumor. Could be trauma related if he loss consciousness and hit head. Could be encephalitis/meningitis, but these shouldn't be drug related. This leaves noninfectious brain edema or stroke as potential causes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Anyone recall when Okposo suffered the apparent head trauma associated with this incident? He was out for ~3 weeks with ribs, and then returned to play 2 games (TOR and FLA) before this issue arose. His TOI in those games was not quite what it usually was, but it was 15+ minutes. Is there some incident that occurred that was overlooked and/or that I have forgotten? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Keep in mind that Okposo would be a VIP and placed in units that people with the same diagnosis would not be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Keep in mind that Okposo would be a VIP and placed in units that people with the same diagnosis would not be While I don't flat out disagree with this, I can't say I agree. ICU beds are at very high premium. You have to be damn sick and I can't see ICU physicians agreeing to keep him in there at the expense of a nobody who does. As much as people rail on the American healthcare system, equity exists for the very sick. Now, if they were at 20% capacity, then maybe they would. But, why the neuro ICU then? That hints at a certain amount of specificity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 ^ (Best I could do for a HIPAA joke.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 I assume you are talking typical VIP porotocol, not actual care of KO. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 . I assume you are talking typical VIP porotocol, not actual care of KO. Makes sense. I think he's talking specific care of KO, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 This still sounds very shaky as to whether he will regain full health, let alone be able to play NHL hockey this fall. I like Okposo's game but I think he was damaged goods when we got him. The detached retina is a very serious injury for a hockey player, especially with the continuing possibility of concussions. I want him to be well and stay well with that kind of injury for sure. It doesn't appear to be much precedent or timetable for his injury....I think Okposo as a reliable part of this roster, is just as you say, shaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) Hmmm. If the Sabres trade Kane and Okposo isn't able to continue longterm because of health reasons, there's an immediate lack of scoring without replacement right there. And the Sabres just came back from a historically low goal scoring drought. I think you keep Kane in case Okposo doesn't pan out. Edited June 9, 2017 by Marvelo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 If the Sabres trade Kane and Okposo isn't able to continue longterm because of health reasons, there's an immediate lack of scoring without replacement right there. And the Sabres just came back from a historically low goal scoring drought. I think you keep Kane in case Okposo doesn't pan out. Let's just hope that Botterill has the information necessary to make an informed decision. I would think Kane isn't dealt unless JBot is reasonably confident Okposo will be suiting up for the Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Actual, and good, news re: KO. Expected to be ready for camp. https://www.nhl.com/news/sabres-okposo-expected-to-be-ready-for-training-camp/c-289955088 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Let's just hope that Botterill has the information necessary to make an informed decision. I would think Kane isn't dealt unless JBot is reasonably confident Okposo will be suiting up for the Sabres.He sounded confident when asked about Okposo yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 He sounded confident when asked about Okposo yesterday. Good news, especially considering the latest reports. Relieving to know he's feeling better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Let's just hope that Botterill has the information necessary to make an informed decision. I would think Kane isn't dealt unless JBot is reasonably confident Okposo will be suiting up for the Sabres. I don't think Okposo affects what we do with Kane at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I don't think Okposo affects what we do with Kane at all totally agree...I think we move Kane because there is this new mandate to have good, issue-free locker-room and Kane with his previous issues is a sure victim of this...just as we never seriously considered Tochett because of his previous "issues" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) totally agree...I think we move Kane because there is this new mandate to have good, issue-free locker-room and Kane with his previous issues is a sure victim of this...just as we never seriously considered Tochett because of his previous "issues" And Kane has no issues in the Sabres locker room. So why is that a thing? Edited June 16, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 And Kane has no issues in the Sabres locker room. So why is that a thing? This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Okposo is playing in the Da Beauty League in Minnesota. A summer league for NHLers. Bogo, Nelson, Fasching and the Sabres Future Nobel Peace Prize Winner are also playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 Okposo is playing in the Da Beauty League in Minnesota. A summer league for NHLers. Bogo, Nelson, Fasching and the Sabres Future Nobel Peace Prize Winner are also playing Hopefully he doesn't get too close to Mittlestadt. Casey's intellectual strength might be jarring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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