Huckleberry Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I always thought the kid would turn into a decent #2C. And I'm starting to think you are right, he might be a better 3C than Gus or Larsson. He was the higher pick. It *should* turn out that way. But after the rookie season Gus had, I expected Gus to be the better player. Mr. Girgensons needs to rebound. The only reason I think this is because his defensive game was always good and he is better at face offs. Though Larsson isn't bad at it either. really would have loved a 3rd line of Girgensons - Grigorenko - Larsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I don't get why more of these don't go all the way to arbitration... something like 80-90% settle before their hearing. Probably a make-good deal most of the time. It's better for the relationship if you shake hands with your GM/player as opposed to shaking hands with an arbiter. That & in the arbitration hearing both sides really need to pump the tires for their case so the player gets to hear all the things management thinks he sucks at. Not necessarily a relationship breaker but it definitely doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I said $1.2 million. If this were the Price is Right I would win the showcase for not going over. good call lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 OK, so Grigorenko got 1.3 on one year. Is Girgensons worth more, less, or roughly the same as that? I want to say more, but I'm not sure he's proven that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Auston Matthews signs his ELC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Auston Matthews signs his ELC For Locomitiv in the KHL for all the rubles? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Wow, what a selfish headcase. That's way too much term and dollar for someone who has not proven anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Auston Matthews' agent Pat Brisson says he "is getting the full permissible package for an entry level player" from the Leafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) Well we know Toronto is out on Vesey now Edited July 21, 2016 by WildCard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 That's ridiculous. His entitlement attitude before he's even played one NHL game tells me all I need to know about him. In fact I'm pretty sure I'm going to hate the guy for at least the next seven years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I said $1.2 million. If this were the Price is Right I would win the showcase for not going over. Or most likely, gone to arbitration because he wouldn't take that and then get slapped with a $2mill arby decision. :flirt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Well we know Toronto is out on Vesey now why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 why?You think they'll shell out bonuses for Vesey when they cried about doing it for Matthews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 You think they'll shell out bonuses for Vesey when they cried about doing it for Matthews? good point. no, they probably won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I said $1.2 million. If this were the Price is Right I would win the showcase for not going over. COME ON DOOOOWN! Wow, what a selfish headcase. That's way too much term and dollar for someone who has not proven anything. Right? Why would Toronto pay $ to a guy who hasn't played a SINGLE NHL game? Shoulda waited till he had some experience under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Or most likely, gone to arbitration because he wouldn't take that and then get slapped with a $2mill arby decision. :flirt: You're not Bob Barker. :cry: :cry: :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Am I the only one hearing the Rick Nash to BFLO rumors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Am I the only one hearing the Rick Nash to BFLO rumors? I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 I hope so. I guess it's a rumor floating around NY. Detroit and BFLO are interested. Apparently, the rumor hasn't left NY, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Those nash rumours been around for a quite a while, he would make sense though. Yes his contract is :sick: , but he can still put up points and would be a good 2nd line LW. His possesion stats are good and he would complement Reinhart and Eichel well and his contract comes off the books when we have to start paying the kids. edit: Don't think we would have to give much in return though, if the rags want him gone he should be almost for free :p Edited July 22, 2016 by Huckleberry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Am I the only one hearing the Rick Nash to BFLO rumors? If we don't get Vesey, I really hope this happens, though not sure how badly NY needs the cap space in light of the Brassard trade. I'm not even a big Nash fan, but it makes a ton of sense at the right price and it's exactly the type of move Murray had hinted at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 What's his save %? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Acquiring Nash makes a ton of sense to me. I think the general consensus is that we should be a fringe playoff team next year and could make some noise in two years. Will we probably get bounced in the first round next year if we make it? Yeah, but it'll be exciting. I can only imagine how valuable the experience will be for the young guys though. Give Eichel a 30 goal scorer, and maybe we're a 6 or 7 seed instead of an 8. Maybe we push a series to 7 games or even win a series in an upset instead of being bounced in 5. Now consider two years down the road.. That's when we should start being taken seriously. Maybe our legit title window is years 4-10 for Jack and Sam. If you can extend that window just one year in either direction without suffering longterm consequences, you absolutely do it. Nash could crash and burn, and I don't think it would set this team back. We aren't going to be big players in FA next year because we won't hamstring ourselves before cashing checks to the young guns, so I'm not torn up about whatever portion of his cap hit we'd take on. If he works out though, then we've strengthened our chances while he's here, and we've gained experience for after he's done. It's so hard to win a cup. Even if Jack turns generational, Sam turns elite, ROR wins mutliple Selkes, Riso becomes a bonafide #1, etc., it is so, so hard. I want as many shots at a cup as possible. Give me a lottery ticket that doesn't hurt my chances of retaining my core, and extend that window one season sooner, all while getting that core slightly more prepared for said playoff runs down the road. Edit: Now if we trade for Nash/equivalent before Vessey Day, then we run the risk of pushing him somewhere with that top 6 spot more likely. But let's keep his name out of this thread as much as possible. There's enough drama in his own thread :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ennis has to be going the other way then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ennis has to be going the other way then With their cap situation, probably a pick and prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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