SwampD Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Kyle Orton could take this team to the playoffs. It pisses me off that I don't know if that's true or not. F this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 As a coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Between the Sabres Game Friday and the Bills Game today, looks like I picked a good weekend to be out of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Yes. They all should go, and Jimbo or someone else reputable should advise on hiring the new GM and coach. Why advise though? Why not give that person the power to make the decision? What's the opposite of fear and envy of the rich? Why assume they are smart people who are qualified to make this decision? They simply are not. They have proven it, in two franchises. They are merely fans. Now, if you have no problem with me or DeLuca making such a decision, then fine, at least you're consistent. I have a feeling you wouldn't want any of the fans on this board making hiring decisions for either franchise. Yes, yes, I understand they own the team and have "earned" the right to do what they want. But if they do love these teams, they should do the most logical thing. I think they have to realize that they can see their teams have success without their direct involvement or they can continue to be directly involved and get the same results. Can owners grow into roles? Sure. Ilitch in Detroit is a good example. But right off the hop he cleaned house and brought in Jimmy Devellano. Is Pegula another Ilitch? Is he another Rooney? Can you honestly say you see signs of this in the man? Or in Kim? No shame in it. They should set the mission, step back, write the checks and evaluate the men or women they've hired to run things for them. It's just that simple and I will take this opinion to my grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 This great defensive coach has seen the D get worse each year during his tenure. Time for him to go and take his brother and the GM with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Not the board for this thread, sorry yse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 *Patiently waits for Eleven's head to explode* Seriously though, lock/delete this post haste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Yes. They all should go, and Jimbo or someone else reputable should advise on hiring the new GM and coach. Have you managed to come to your senses on Tyrod? :) Why advise though? Why not give that person the power to make the decision? What's the opposite of fear and envy of the rich? Why assume they are smart people who are qualified to make this decision? They simply are not. They have proven it, in two franchises. They are merely fans. Now, if you have no problem with me or DeLuca making such a decision, then fine, at least you're consistent. I have a feeling you wouldn't want any of the fans on this board making hiring decisions for either franchise. Yes, yes, I understand they own the team and have "earned" the right to do what they want. But if they do love these teams, they should do the most logical thing. I think they have to realize that they can see their teams have success without their direct involvement or they can continue to be directly involved and get the same results. Can owners grow into roles? Sure. Ilitch in Detroit is a good example. But right off the hop he cleaned house and brought in Jimmy Devellano. Is Pegula another Ilitch? Is he another Rooney? Can you honestly say you see signs of this in the man? Or in Kim? No shame in it. They should set the mission, step back, write the checks and evaluate the men or women they've hired to run things for them. It's just that simple and I will take this opinion to my grave. 1) Hit enter. Please. I beg you. 2) I am continually perplexed by how you don't trust the Pegulas to do the hiring, but you trust them to hire the person to do the hiring. Edited December 12, 2016 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 1) Hit enter. Please. I beg you.Really though :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Kerouac never hit enter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Kerouac never hit enter! What a douche. And hack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 This belongs in the Eichel Megathread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Sorry, just venting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Ya know, I think T-Pegs is going to read this thread and take some action. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 What a douche. And hack. Hey! Oh. 2) I am continually perplexed by how you don't trust the Pegulas to do the hiring, but you trust them to hire the person to do the hiring. I do believe owners have certain rights and responsibilities. Besides, I mean, it has to start somewhere, right? Even if they pick someone else to hire the person to do the hiring, they've hired that first person. And of course they get to fire the team president. I'd even let the owners get involved in personnel decisions in extraordinary situations. Some scumbag player beats his wife, I think the owner should be able to force the GM to get rid of the guy. Eichel becomes legend, a superstar, leads us to Cups, and some GM wants to trade him... the owner should be able to say no, sorry, we're just not doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAud Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 When Rex brought in Rob to coach the goalies, I really thought that was questionable at the time but frankly Nielsen and Lehner are playing quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Fire his dumb ass!! I don't watch football but this guy is a showboat, hate him! This stupid damn commercials he is in are so damn stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Why advise though? Why not give that person the power to make the decision? What's the opposite of fear and envy of the rich? Why assume they are smart people who are qualified to make this decision? They simply are not. They have proven it, in two franchises. They are merely fans. Now, if you have no problem with me or DeLuca making such a decision, then fine, at least you're consistent. I have a feeling you wouldn't want any of the fans on this board making hiring decisions for either franchise. Yes, yes, I understand they own the team and have "earned" the right to do what they want. But if they do love these teams, they should do the most logical thing. I think they have to realize that they can see their teams have success without their direct involvement or they can continue to be directly involved and get the same results. Can owners grow into roles? Sure. Ilitch in Detroit is a good example. But right off the hop he cleaned house and brought in Jimmy Devellano. Is Pegula another Ilitch? Is he another Rooney? Can you honestly say you see signs of this in the man? Or in Kim? No shame in it. They should set the mission, step back, write the checks and evaluate the men or women they've hired to run things for them. It's just that simple and I will take this opinion to my grave. I don't think it's realistic for the owner not to retain final say in hiring a new president/GM (what if, e.g., Jim Kelly was the new PLF and he started lobbying for his HS coach from East Brady, PA to take over?). The real question is: will the PLF/adviser's recommendations be followed? We can't know for sure, but it seemed like GMTM was PLF's choice -- and if that's true, we probably don't need to be that concerned about TP going off the reservation on the hire. My fear is that TP allows RB and DW to fire Rex without showing them the door as well. I think Tim Graham nails it here: http://buffalonews.com/2016/12/11/blame-runs-deep-bills-failings-fall-feet-rex-ryans/ As for this board running things: I lobbied a number of times for a supervisory board made up of posters here to take over from Darcy during his last misbegotten few years here. Have you managed to come to your senses on Tyrod? :) 1) Hit enter. Please. I beg you. 2) I am continually perplexed by how you don't trust the Pegulas to do the hiring, but you trust them to hire the person to do the hiring. I am not done with TT. He looked lousy today but I would like to see him with a good coach, a quality group of receivers and a non-toxic situation. I also believe the Bills have a better chance at making the playoffs next year with TT than with Cardale Jones at QB. Also, and perhaps most importantly, I read today that if the Bills pick up the option on TT for next year, they are only committed to him for $3MM for the following year -- so it's effectively another 1-year option on him. If that is correct, then I don't think there are going to be many QB options for them for next year that are going to be better than TT. If they can get Philip Rivers? Sure, go ahead. But if it's another Fitz or Orton, I'd rather have TT. And what a brutal burn on PA. How can you live with yourself? He must be shattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Off with his head! and in before the lock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 The other name I've heard thrown around is Romo. As someone who lives in the DFW area, let me just say NO. He *was* a good, not great, quarterback. With his injury issues of late, he's too frail to put any stock in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I feel like Romo was decidedly great when the injuries started happening. I remember hearing his name in MVP talks all of 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 No, you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 So who wants to take bets on how long the playoff drought. It will soon be 17 years once we're officially eliminated. I'll set the over/under at 21 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I feel like Romo was decidedly great when the injuries started happening. I remember hearing his name in MVP talks all of 2014 The problem with Romo is that he was never as good as he thought he was. He fancied himself the next Brett Favre. He's never been that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 So who wants to take bets on how long the playoff drought. It will soon be 17 years once we're officially eliminated. I'll set the over/under at 21 years. If/when Rex is fired, the next coach will bring in his own guys, which will mean two more years of transition so two more years of not making the playoffs. If Whaley is fired too, he's going to want a whole new roster so we're talking three years minimum. Either way, the chances are high it reaches two decades. A real shame they're going to waste a kick as running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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