wjag Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 I wonder if this was one of the reasons behind Kelly's move. I think 1-4 with a QB rating of 69.6 had more to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) The team with perhaps the worst excessive drinking tailgate culture playing the team with a now starting QB who uses a horrible method/schtick to push his social justice agenda. What could go wrong?Horrible? I thought people would be thankful he's not protesting in the streets cause they seem to think that's horrible too What would an acceptable method of protest be for a football player? Honest question. I just mean, half of my section at any sporting event I go to stays seated, eating their nachos or whatever. It's practically nothing. The NFL only started asking players to stand a few years ago. That's just a strong term to describe what I see as not doing all that much Edited October 11, 2016 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Horrible? I thought people would be thankful he's not protesting in the streets cause they seem to think that's horrible too What would an acceptable method of protest be for a football player? Honest question. Horrible in terms of it being a productive way to bring about a national discussion on race and the police as is his stated motive. Doing anything that is viewed as disrespectful to the flag is never going to get people talking about the issue you care about in a constructive way, but it will certainly get people talking about not respecting the flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 11, 2016 Report Share Posted October 11, 2016 Horrible in terms of it being a productive way to bring about a national discussion on race and the police as is his stated motive. Doing anything that is viewed as disrespectful to the flag is never going to get people talking about the issue you care about in a constructive way, but it will certainly get people talking about not respecting the flag. Gotcha, makes sense considering some people in my family and the way they talked about it while I was home on break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Horrible in terms of it being a productive way to bring about a national discussion on race and the police as is his stated motive. Doing anything that is viewed as disrespectful to the flag is never going to get people talking about the issue you care about in a constructive way, but it will certainly get people talking about not respecting the flag. Except it has created a very large discussion. And a ton of other players have joined. It's been extremely effective and productive. Hardly horrible. Kaep's jersey sales have skyrocketed (all of which are going to a charity that promotes justice), the 49ers donated $1 million and other players are making donations. It hasn't just started a discussing, it has promoted action. Kaepernick gets two thumbs up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Except it has created a very large discussion. And a ton of other players have joined. It's been extremely effective and productive. Hardly horrible. Kaep's jersey sales have skyrocketed (all of which are going to a charity that promotes justice), the 49ers donated $1 million and other players are making donations. It hasn't just started a discussing, it has promoted action. Kaepernick gets two thumbs up here. Yeah, as far as his aim goes, he pretty much nailed it. It's literally been the only thing on sports media, and the prominent discussion in media and social circles in general, for more than 2 months. Personally, I'm a fan of how he's gone about it Edited October 12, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Except it has created a very large discussion. And a ton of other players have joined. It's been extremely effective and productive. Hardly horrible. Kaep's jersey sales have skyrocketed (all of which are going to a charity that promotes justice), the 49ers donated $1 million and other players are making donations. It hasn't just started a discussing, it has promoted action. Kaepernick gets two thumbs up here. I think it created a TON more discussion about Colin Kaepernick than it did about the BLM movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I think it created a TON more discussion about Colin Kaepernick than it did about the BLM movement. Yep. I agree 100% with his right to do it, but any protest about the flag is only going to serve to spark a national discussion about disrespecting the flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I think it created a TON more discussion about Colin Kaepernick than it did about the BLM movement. There hasn't been a ton of BLM talk because it's not exclusively about them. If you haven't seen the discussions about race (hell, it spurred a very good discussion here) then you haven't been paying enough attention. There have been a TON of race discussion. Kaep's graphic has been on the screen because that's how sports networks can tie it all in, but they've brought in people they would never consider otherwise to discuss the issues. Colin Kaepernick was successful and continues to be without a sliver of doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I'm not active on social media and I don't listen to sports talk radio so I'll take others word for it that his actions have sparked some meaningful discussion, but I personally have heard next to nothing in terms of constructive race discussions out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I think Claude is right. In the end, Kaepernick has stimulated much more discussion about flags and anthems than he has about violence. I also think it would be fun if the entire stadium sang the anthem at the top of their lungs every time the Niners had the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I think Claude is right. In the end, Kaepernick has stimulated much more discussion about flags and anthems than he has about violence. I also think it would be fun if the entire stadium sang the anthem at the top of their lungs every time the Niners had the ball. If the crowd did that I'd sit down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) I think Claude is right. In the end, Kaepernick has stimulated much more discussion about flags and anthems than he has about violence. I also think it would be fun if the entire stadium sang the anthem at the top of their lungs every time the Niners had the ball. I don't mind that discussion either. What is the point of the anthem at sporting events anyways? Edited October 12, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I could care less he takes a knee. We don't bitch about that one drunk who screams during the anthem but this has ppl in a tizzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I don't mind that discussion either. What is the point of the anthem at sporting events anyways? Thanks How else is the NFL going to make all that extra money by having some arm of the Services pay to do a flyover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Sammy does not need another surgery, rest and rehab with a possible late season return to action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Sammy does not need another surgery, rest and rehab with a possible late season return to action O rly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 O rly? Auto parts. Better prices, every day. O rly auto parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Karlos Williams to Steelers practice squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Karlos Williams to Steelers practice squad. :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) :huh: They changed the rule recently to allow for some practice squad spots to be filled with players who have regular season experience. I know this because I just looked it up after having the same reaction you did. http://www.sbnation.com/2016/9/3/12773904/nfl-practice-squad-players-roster-rules-eligibility-primer Edited October 12, 2016 by Drunkard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 If the crowd did that I'd sit down. The whole point, when the other team has the ball, is for the crowd to mess with the QB, right? What better way? He wouldn't be able to hear a thing, too. I don't mind that discussion either. What is the point of the anthem at sporting events anyways? You know I've asked that question on here at least half a dozen times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Bills just announced that the dude with the big hair will start for the 49ers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 The whole point, when the other team has the ball, is for the crowd to mess with the QB, right? What better way? He wouldn't be able to hear a thing, too. I think too many would be doing it for reasons other than messing with a QB. Just not something I'd be interested in joining in on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 I don't mind that discussion either. What is the point of the anthem at sporting events anyways? I'll go further: when did the flag become the exclusive property of veterans and the armed forces? Why is it that when someone kneels, the detractors always bring out the veteran angle and disrespect? I'll echo someone's question above: how does Kaep protest that doesn't just end up being a bunch of people yelling about how he doesn't love America and by extension the military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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