carpandean Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 At this point I swear people on here would find something to complain about if the Sabres won the Stanley Cup. Just one?! Weak. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I watch McDavid play here in Erie all the time. Connor loves Sherry Bassin the owner. The Oilers owner has forced Bassin to declare bankruptcy. Connor's dad offered his lawyer services to Bassin. Oilers have been trying to buy the Erie Otters for about four years now. That's a slap in the face. I would imagine the Connor doesn't want to play for the Oilers. I wonder if the McDavids will pull a Lindros. Or maybe tell MacTavish he won't sign if they draft him. I think Connor has too much class for that. But who knows? It must be a very uncomfortable position for him to be in. I think he handled it well. Being mentored by a pro like Bobby Orr (his agent) probably helped. I don't think this is over. This explains McDavid's morose expressions last night. He's drafted by the NHL team trying to put his current junior team out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 This explains McDavid's morose expressions last night. He's drafted by the NHL team trying to put his current junior team out of business. Not trying to put the Otters out of business, but trying to take over the team. I think shortbusrider has an interesting angle on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Not trying to put the Otters out of business, but trying to take over the team. I think shortbusrider has an interesting angle on this. And move it to Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 UFRASU (Upon further reflection and sobering up), I'm still happy with this result. We're getting a great player and I don't really care where the other guy goes. From this article. http://m.edmontonsun.com/2014/12/30/nhl-scout-evaluates-mcdavid-eichel-ahead-of-matchup “He’s tough. You do notice that McDavid is more feisty -- he’ll shove, he’ll push. Jack will take the (bleep) and deal with it but he won’t strike back as much as Connor. In college, guys will go after Jack and he’ll look at them like: ‘Are you kidding me? I’ll see you after the puck drops.’” I like this difference and prefer Eichel here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Hamilton is getting the Belleville Bulls next year, but there may be another destination in mind. I agree there may be more to this story because McDavid did not look very happy. Edited April 19, 2015 by French Collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I watch McDavid play here in Erie all the time. Connor loves Sherry Bassin the owner. The Oilers owner has forced Bassin to declare bankruptcy. Connor's dad offered his lawyer services to Bassin. Oilers have been trying to buy the Erie Otters for about four years now. That's a slap in the face. I would imagine the Connor doesn't want to play for the Oilers. I wonder if the McDavids will pull a Lindros. Or maybe tell MacTavish he won't sign if they draft him. I think Connor has too much class for that. But who knows? It must be a very uncomfortable position for him to be in. I think he handled it well. Being mentored by a pro like Bobby Orr (his agent) probably helped. I don't think this is over. Great insight. Thanks. This explains McDavid's morose expressions last night. He's drafted by the NHL team trying to put his current junior team out of business. Morose? I haven't seen the interview. I will hunt it down. But I've seen and heard him interviewed, and he plays it very tight to the vest. He's probably been coached up by PR people for awhile now. He is very quiet and thoughtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Great insight. Thanks. Morose? I haven't seen the interview. I will hunt it down. But I've seen and heard him interviewed, and he plays it very tight to the vest. He's probably been coached up by PR people for awhile now. He is very quiet and thoughtful. Does this look like a happy kid? http://streamable.com/u0yv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 By not "tanking" and just being really really really bad the Oilers are rewarded. Exactly. My views on the "tank" are well known. The lotto result is fair and just, IMO. The third worst team in the league, IMO, the worst team that did not tank, gets the first pick. That's a good outcome for this dreadful season. If the NHL had instituted the changes for next draft lotto this year it would be likely that the Sabres and Coyotes would have missed out on the second pick as well. That would have been the icing on the poop cake. Anyway, this is the last I will say on this whole thing. I have said my piece. Onward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Does this look like a happy kid? http://streamable.com/u0yv No. I don't know what he's normally like. He's not a handstand, chug a beer kind of guy, I don't think. He's 18 and all the pressure just escaped and his life just changed. I don't know what he would have looked like had the Leafs or Sabres won the lottery. I get it though. He looks less than thrilled. OK, this is juicy and comes only from my conspiratorial mind. What if McDavid's reaction (including "anything can happen on draft day") is basically, "Oh, crud, now we have to use the Lindros Option that we've talked about, and this is going to suck."? Exactly. My views on the "tank" are well known. The lotto result is fair and just, IMO. The third worst team in the league, IMO, the worst team that did not tank, gets the first pick. That's a good outcome for this dreadful season. If the NHL had instituted the changes for next draft lotto this year it would be likely that the Sabres and Coyotes would have missed out on the second pick as well. That would have been the icing on the poop cake. Anyway, this is the last I will say on this whole thing. I have said my piece. Onward. Finishing second is enough of a PP slap. What I'm coming around to is how perfect this is. Buffalo gets dissed again by the Hockey Gods, we're number two again, in so many things. The buffalo chip on the shoulder remains, and Eichel is going to have a huge hump on his back as well. It's a marriage made in heaven. We'll fight and claw for everything we get, surely with little to no support from the league or respect from the national media along the way. We'll have to be smarter in building our team now. When the Cup is raised, no one can say we did it because we tanked for McDavid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I am so excited to watch Jack Eichel play for Buffalo this season. He's got some swagger and he's good. If he becomes captain some day I hope he says "Son, I'm Captain Jack Eichel, savvy?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I agree. There's not so much room to maneuver in the NHL. Plus you have to be sturdy. I just don't think McDavid will ever be that strong. Anyway, we knew it all alone. A Buffalo sports team will never get lucky. How does ARI feel? Clearly the worst team in the league since the deadline. They get neither McDavid nor Eichel by a couple of points in the standings. The goal was never McDavid, it was McEichel, mission accomplished I'm excited to watch him play. Dont let the media make you feel like Buffalo was unlucky, losing the lottery when you only have a 1 in 5 chance of winning isn't unlucky at all. The fact we get Eichel means the tank was worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 At this point I swear people on here would find something to complain about if the Sabres won the Stanley Cup. This never gets old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 This never gets old. Yes it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Yes it does. "I swear at this point the Sabres could go 16-0 in the playoffs and win the Stanley Cup and people here would be complaining." Incredible burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksFan82 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Time to embrace Jack Eichel. I really loathe the Oilers from hear on out. It's not their fault for winning the lottery, but really they develop their players terribly. I preferred McDavid in every sense, but it is what it is. I dont get all this hate on Edmonton developing their players terribly. Their problem is that they have drafted the same type of player year after year because they have had the top pick so often and they are generally the top player in the draft. The 2012 draft was the perfect time for them to trade that 1st overall pick they won to trade down the draft and finally pick up a d-man like Murray or Rielly, but nope, they went for Yakupov. That team needs some defence and a goalie, which they can finally hopefully get since they can trade a piece after getting McDavid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 "I swear at this point the Sabres could go 16-0 in the playoffs and win the Stanley Cup and people here would be complaining." Incredible burn. Did they have to win any of the games in overtime? That would bug me for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I almost posted but feels like rubbing it in at this point. Two weekends ago is the difference between our board and theirs. I wasn't even stressed about the lottery as Eichel looks amazing. The drop between 2 and 3 is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>between 1 and 2 IMO. I can't imagine how this week even went for Yotes fans leading up to the lottery. So much pressure. I mean I posted toward the end of the season, but pre-lottery. Wished them luck in the lottery pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Not trying to put the Otters out of business, but trying to take over the team. I think shortbusrider has an interesting angle on this. Despite his choice in name? "I swear at this point the Sabres could go 16-0 in the playoffs and win the Stanley Cup and people here would be complaining." Incredible burn. Someone would. You know it. Everyone bitched about winning too many games. Then they rejoiced for finishing 30th. Then they bitched that the coach was let go because they lost. It's like bitching about having to mow the grass all the time when you also fertilize the hell out of it and water it like crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Despite his choice in name? I don't love that, but the idea is interesting. I think it's far more likely that the McDavids use some leverage to force the Oil to make nice with Bassin than outright refuse to play there, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Does this look like a happy kid? http://streamable.com/u0yv It looks like someone walking through a hallway. I dont get all this hate on Edmonton developing their players terribly. Their problem is that they have drafted the same type of player year after year because they have had the top pick so often and they are generally the top player in the draft. The 2012 draft was the perfect time for them to trade that 1st overall pick they won to trade down the draft and finally pick up a d-man like Murray or Rielly, but nope, they went for Yakupov. That team needs some defence and a goalie, which they can finally hopefully get since they can trade a piece after getting McDavid. What's to stop them from doing that now? They can trade one of their recent Number Ones for quality D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I would be pissed. As would I and he's one of my favorite players in the league (Couture). Exactly. My views on the "tank" are well known. The lotto result is fair and just, IMO. The third worst team in the league, IMO, the worst team that did not tank, gets the first pick. That's a good outcome for this dreadful season. If the NHL had instituted the changes for next draft lotto this year it would be likely that the Sabres and Coyotes would have missed out on the second pick as well. That would have been the icing on the poop cake. Anyway, this is the last I will say on this whole thing. I have said my piece. Onward. Being incompetent should certainly be rewarded over having a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 And it's Jack to the Future! Seriously, don't understand why people are upset Buffalo didn't land McDavid. Yes, he's the best, but Eichel is a scary good player. Give the guy some credit. The tank was for 'McEichel', not McDavid. The tank has been accomplished. Now let's look forward to the draft and free agency. We're going Jack to the Future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 It has to be a bummer for McDavid to end up in Edmonton which will now own his rights until he hits UFA status 10 or so years from now. 1 - Barren wasteland 2 - Incompetent management 3 - Go Back to #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 More than anything, the hand wringing and whining about McDavid just reinforces that the average person has a very poor grasp of mathematics and basic probability concepts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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