Doohickie Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Bring him back. He would be an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 There's no way Vanek resigns here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The way he acted the last couple years, no thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The way he acted the last couple years, no thanks! How did he act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assquatch Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 He made faces and stuff. Ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 There's no way Vanek resigns here He already did. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) He already did. :rolleyes: Do I mean again? :huh: Edited January 31, 2014 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is exactly why the school of thought that trading Miller "will finally end all the talk about Miller." We'll still see crazy threads like this. Vanek is gone. Forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Vanek is gone. Forever. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) This is why the summer will be so interesting. Vanek will be one of the - if not the - best free agent out there. The Sabres will be one of the - if not the - team with the most money to spend in free agency. But Vanek and most of the other big free agents won't be great fits for Buffalo. I see most of Buffalo's moves this summer as not being free agent signings, but being cap-related trades. We might help some other team create space for a big name. I think we will be offering cap relief to teams that need to dump contracts. And we will be offering picks and prospects in attempts to get emerging players that teams might be having trouble re-signing. We may overpay someone for veteran leadership, but our free agent pick-ups will probably second-tier types at best. Edited January 31, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 He made faces and stuff. Ridiculous! Hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphs mike Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Exactly +++ We need young talent before we need to fill in the veteran leadership, which will come through FA, if I understood Murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 He made faces and stuff. Ridiculous! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 This is why the summer will be so interesting. Vanek will be one of the - if not the - best free agent out there. The Sabres will be one of the - if not the - team with the most money to spend in free agency. But Vanek and most of the other big free agents won't be great fits for Buffalo. I see most of Buffalo's moves this summer as not being free agent signings, but being cap-related trades. We might help some other team create space for a big name. I think we will be offering cap relief to teams that need to dump contracts. And we will be offering picks and prospects in attempts to get emerging players that teams might be having trouble re-signing. We may overpay someone for veteran leadership, but our free agent pick-ups will probably second-tier types at best. I agree with you in that I am doubtful that the Sabres will be pursuing high-profile UFAs (although I hope this isn't true regarding Callahan). However, I'm also skeptical that the Sabres will be able to pull much off in the way of cap-driven trades. The cap is probably going to rise by $6MM or so this summer, which will alleviate most teams' cap issues. More broadly, I feel like we've been hearing about the cap-driven trade forever, and it never seems to happen (although to be fair part of that can be laid at Darcy's feet). I guess I think that if there is a really good player presenting a cap issue, that guy's team will work out a way to keep that guy and dump a lesser player in order to create the cap space. Around the NHL -- how many cap-driven trades of good players have occurred in the last few years? I suppose Soupy going to Florida qualifies but I can't think of much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I agree with you in that I am doubtful that the Sabres will be pursuing high-profile UFAs (although I hope this isn't true regarding Callahan). However, I'm also skeptical that the Sabres will be able to pull much off in the way of cap-driven trades. The cap is probably going to rise by $6MM or so this summer, which will alleviate most teams' cap issues. More broadly, I feel like we've been hearing about the cap-driven trade forever, and it never seems to happen (although to be fair part of that can be laid at Darcy's feet). I guess I think that if there is a really good player presenting a cap issue, that guy's team will work out a way to keep that guy and dump a lesser player in order to create the cap space. Around the NHL -- how many cap-driven trades of good players have occurred in the last few years? I suppose Soupy going to Florida qualifies but I can't think of much else. I think Ladd probably got traded out of Chicago because they thought they couldn't sign him. In general though cap only trades don't happen for good players. I could see a team dumping an overpaid guy plus a sweetener to us for relatively nothing but I know that isn't what you meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think Ladd probably got traded out of Chicago because they thought they couldn't sign him. In general though cap only trades don't happen for good players. I could see a team dumping an overpaid guy plus a sweetener to us for relatively nothing but I know that isn't what you meant. Yeah, this is more what I was going for — like when the Hawks dumped Ladd and Versteeg and Byfuglien and Campbell. You guys are right that the extra $6 million might get in the way, but what won't get in the way is Darcy's unwillingness to move his guys, or a lack of prospects and picks that we can use to get whoever we target. Guys do come on the market for a variety of reasons. I'm going to check out Capgeek and see where the pressure points are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 He made faces and stuff. Ridiculous! Fake vampire teeth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The Vanek ship has sailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I liked Vanek, but I really don't want him back. Time for something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 This is exactly why the school of thought that trading Miller "will finally end all the talk about Miller." We'll still see crazy threads like this. Vanek is gone. Forever. Seriously? Some of the threads that have been started here and some of the wacky trade rumors and proposals that have run here and you call this crazy? I don't really see this happening either but I expect that it will be considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Sign Vanek AND Moulson this summer if we're going in that direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 No vanek.... Time to move towards the horizon and not back to the shore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 No vanek.... Time to move towards the horizon and not back to the shore no vanek no way, or no vanek...unless there's a huge discount...which isn't gonna happen...so :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kishoph Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 This team has no place for goal scorers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 no vanek no way, or no vanek...unless there's a huge discount...which isn't gonna happen...so :P Lol pretty much option 1, I was never a huge vanek fan even when he was a streaky scorer.... And with him being one of the hottest free agents (not in looks) lol, he'll command some decent money, money I want spent on New blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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