apuszczalowski Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Agreed with wjag and 11. While Vanek is clearly our most talented player and I appreciate that he cares enough to get frustrated with himself when he's not producing, I don't think he'd make a good captain. You can't rally the troops when you're too busy making Vanek-face and beating yourself up. i agree with not giving the C to Vanek Most people always want to give it to the most skilled player all the time and think that just because he is the most skilled he should be the leader, but vanek has never struck me as a Leader type. I'm not saying that as a bad thing though, there are just some who are not leaders out there. i can't picture him as a take charge of the room and rally the troops kind of guy. He comes accross more as the quiet, gets the job done on his own type guy. Now, I also don't think it really matters who the captain is, and believe that putting a C on any player isn't going to change how the team plays on the ice. You don't need a C or and A on your jersey to speak up and rally the guys to win, and if you do, theres something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 If we're trying to resign him then Vanek. If Vanek is as good as gone then Ott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 BTW, Tallinder had an "A" last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 BTW, Tallinder had an "A" last night. Not that it's going to happen, but how fun would this place be if Tallinder got the C this year? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Not that it's going to happen, but how fun would this place be if Tallinder got the C this year? :lol: Still not as awful as the new thirds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chileanseabass Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I could see them going with a C and four A's - two for home and two for road. This would spread the warm fuzzies throughout the locker room. My guess would be: C - Vanek A1 - Ott A1 - Weber A2 - Stafford A2 - Ehrhoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumbPuck Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 C - Ott - I like what wjag said above. A team should be channeled through its captain. Ott has a natural energy to him and reminds me of a Briere, go-tema-go kinda guy in interviews. I have to believe that same attitude comes out in the locker room too. A - Vanek - Veteran team leader at this point. However, due to language barrier or just plain personality differences I don't think he expresses himself well. Again, I think this probably translates to the locker room as well. A - Weber - He's really come into his own with the Sabres organization and is a great example to younger Sabres regarding teammate protection (ie facewashing people like Carcillo when they get in Miller's crease). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 While I think the anti-Vanek sentiments have merit, I also think they are more about the 26-year-old Thomas Vanek than today's. I think he is ready to take this step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 While I think the anti-Vanek sentiments have merit, I also think they are more about the 26-year-old Thomas Vanek than today's. I think he is ready to take this step. I agree. I also think he wants it. At least it seemed that way back when Ruff gave it to Pommer. Whether that makes him a good leader or not I don't know, but it wouldn't be reluctant leadership. Didn't Ott also say something last year to the effect of Vanek being the team leader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I agree. I also think he wants it. At least it seemed that way back when Ruff gave it to Pommer. Whether that makes him a good leader or not I don't know, but it wouldn't be reluctant leadership. Didn't Ott also say something last year to the effect of Vanek being the team leader? I think he is. And I think Ott would throw himself in front of a bus for Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLaLaFontaine Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I would like Vanek as captain, but only with a contract extension. Ott is a very good choice ( needs cotract extension), but i also would like Ehrhoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Rhea Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I think it should be Vanek. I also think we are going to see a different Vanek this year. It was no secret that Ruff rode him hard (that doesn't sound good) and they didn't get along, and I really think that hampered his play. I'm hoping Vanek plays even better under Rolston because I think Rolston will treat him better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted September 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Lindy? ;) Lindy just named his captain. It's Jamie Benn. Didn't Ott also say something last year to the effect of Vanek being the team leader? That says more about Ott than it does about Vanek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 C = Weber A = Ott A = Ehrhoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 C = Weber A = Ott A = Ehrhoff Spent some time thinking about this, this morning. I could get behind Weber as a captain. This team has had three "mean" captains in its history. Excluding the one who was at the end of his career (Rivet), the team made the finals each of the other two times. And as I've said before, I like Weber's brand of "mean." He may not be the most talented defenseman on the team, but I'm not so sure that Schony was, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I am ambivalent about Vanek getting the C, for the reasons stated above. If the season goes as I expect it will, it will be awkward when the time comes to move your captain at the trade deadline for a second consecutive year. A lot of talk about Ott and Weber, and I agree that both should be in the mix for letters. A question, though: Is their personal relationship (they're practically brothers) a factor that weighs against placing too much on their shoulders (upper chests)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I am ambivalent about Vanek getting the C, for the reasons stated above. If the season goes as I expect it will, it will be awkward when the time comes to move your captain at the trade deadline for a second consecutive year. A lot of talk about Ott and Weber, and I agree that both should be in the mix for letters. A question, though: Is their personal relationship (they're practically brothers) a factor that weighs against placing too much on their shoulders (upper chests)? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I am ambivalent about Vanek getting the C, for the reasons stated above. If the season goes as I expect it will, it will be awkward when the time comes to move your captain at the trade deadline for a second consecutive year. A lot of talk about Ott and Weber, and I agree that both should be in the mix for letters. A question, though: Is their personal relationship (they're practically brothers) a factor that weighs against placing too much on their shoulders (upper chests)? Lets make it their room now. I just cant get around the idea of Vanek wearing a C. Ott to a lesser extent because he's always on the edge but I could live with him way before Vanek. Outside of Weber or Ott there isn't anyone on this team that qualifies at this point to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Why? Mind your manners, sonny boy -- it's rude to respond to a question with a question. :P Maybe I need to lay a little foundation: Is there a way in which Ott as captain and Weber with an "A" would consolidate too much ... what, power? (not sure that's what it is) ... or maybe it's better stated as favor (maybe that's it) in two players who are so closely connected off the ice? Such that, if you're a guy in that room that doesn't relate well to Ott or Weber, then maybe you're not as incorporated into the team culture as you otherwise might be? I know, I know. It's already starting to sounds like pop psychology as applied to a middle-school-aged hockey team. There are a goodly number of non-North American players on the team and in its future. One of the older ones will get a letter, I suspect. Edited September 25, 2013 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Mind your manners, sonny boy -- it's rude to respond to a question with a question. :P Maybe I need to lay a little foundation: Is there a way in which Ott as captain and Weber with an "A" would consolidate too much ... what, power? (not sure that's what it is) ... or maybe it's better stated as favor (maybe that's it) in two players who are so closely connected off the ice? Such that, if you're a guy in that room that doesn't relate well to Ott or Weber, then maybe you're not as incorporated into the team culture as you otherwise might be? I know, I know. It's already starting to sounds like pop psychology as applied to a middle-school-aged hockey team. There are a goodly number of non-North American players on the team and in its future. One of the older ones will get a letter, I suspect. See that answers the why :P Anywho, I understand what you are thinking but if they are good leaders they will be fair across the board. Not sure if they could be but I would hope that they would try and include everyone and build a team as opposed to being buddy buddy with some guys and not caring about others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I don't want Weber to get the C because I'm still not convinced he's more than a 3rd pairing defenseman. I don't need my captain to be the best player on the team but I do want him to be better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 No talk of Myers yet. I'm not sure I'd want him to be or not but I would think that he would be in the discussion. I guess maybe wait and see if he bounces back first? If he reverts back to his old self then I would think he should be an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Captain CoHo? With a six year deal in hand and being a "character" guy, he wouldn't be a bad pick at all. @pham1717 I have nothing other than a gut feeling, but something's telling me Hodgson will be the captain of this team. Nobody has said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 it's killing me that the pictures of hodgson in his popped collar pink golf shirt playing ministicks with enzo and gerbe on an easter sunday has disappeared from the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 You gotta be F'N kidding me? Pink shirt, ministicks, hair product, riding mower in a polo shirt while listening to Michael Buble on an Ipod as the captain? I pray this is a stab in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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