Buffalonill Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Nah on McCabe. He isn’t very good and he doesn’t want to be here. Don’t go backwards Sabres. Where is everyone getting this ? I thought he loved it in buffalo Edited January 28, 2023 by Buffalonill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Nah on McCabe. He isn’t very good and he doesn’t want to be here. Don’t go backwards Sabres. I'm not sure that he wouldn't want to come back. He felt stuck in the losing culture here. He got tired of it, like a number of other players. His sentiments are understandable. Then he signs with Chicago that is now undergoing a major rebuild. I would think that he would be energized coming back to a team that is on the rise. When he left there were no negative comments or whispers about him. It was just time for a change. Putting aside this particular player, it would be beneficial to get a similar type of rugged player added to the roster. Pairing Lyubuskin with a McCabe type of player would be a good addition to the blue line unit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 42 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Where is everyone getting this ? I thought he loved it in buffalo Could be the fact that he didn’t stay. His wife wanted Chicago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) On 1/28/2023 at 9:35 AM, JohnC said: I'm not sure that he wouldn't want to come back. He felt stuck in the losing culture here. He got tired of it, like a number of other players. His sentiments are understandable. Then he signs with Chicago that is now undergoing a major rebuild. I would think that he would be energized coming back to a team that is on the rise. When he left there were no negative comments or whispers about him. It was just time for a change. Putting aside this particular player, it would be beneficial to get a similar type of rugged player added to the roster. Pairing Lyubuskin with a McCabe type of player would be a good addition to the blue line unit. Ok, McCabe is an upgrade over Bryson but so are a hundred other NHL defensemen. I agree that he was a good soldier when he was here. He was also injury prone and he brings no NHL winning experience. He was part of the losing culture and I prefer to not bring any of those players back. We just don’t need it. He is a bigger body than Bryson but with no significant accomplishments. Definitely not worth a #1. Maybe worth a #2. I want them to look for better player. Pass. Move on. Edited January 31, 2023 by Pimlach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Could be the fact that he didn’t stay. His wife wanted Chicago. Us husbands know what that means happy wife happy life lol I don't blame him then 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Us husbands know what that means happy wife happy life lol I don't blame him then Sure, I subscribe to the happy wife motto. I don’t blame him for leaving. More money, a better destination for his wife, and he gets away from the losing culture. I just don’t think we need him now, he is just another stop-gap player that we will be replacing soon. We need to think bigger and better. Prefer a RHD as well. Edited January 28, 2023 by Pimlach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Two or less said: Fwiw, i've seen McCabe mentioned several times with Toronto. Maybe they think he's Brian's brother? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 To be fair I'd welcome McCabe back if Bryson was included in the deal going back. He's a younger "Pysyk type" defensemen who I see being worked out of the line up sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 I hear Matty Moulson is available if the price is right, as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Thorny said: I hear Matty Moulson is available if the price is right, as well Nathan Beaulieu or Casey Nelson anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Pimlach said: Ok, McCabe is an upgrade over Bryson but so are a hundred other NHL defensemen. I agree that he was a good soldier when he was here. He was also injury prone and he brings no NHL winning experience. He was part of the losing culture and I prefer to not bring any of those players back. We just don’t need it. He is a bigger body than Bryson but with no significant accomplishments. Definitely worth a #1. Maybe a #2. I want them to look for better player. Pass. Move on. I don't understand the argument that a player was part of the losing culture so that disqualifies his return, especially if he is an upgrade. Mitts, Dahlin, Skinner, Okposo, Girgs etc were also members of the team when the organization was run shabbily. It wasn't the players' fault that this was a dysfunctional organization that had little chance to be competitive. I don't know if McCabe is available. That really isn't the issue for me. What I would like to see is a McCabe caliber of player added to the mix to buttress our defensive unit. The cost shouldn't be too extravagant like a Chycrun deal would be. Our GM added Lyubuskin to the unit without giving up any assets. That was a solid pickup. Now that he seems to be fully healthy that addition looks even better than when he was plagued with nagging injuries. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) What's weird for me personally is for the first time in like forever, I'm actually nervous of giving up any of our young guys in order to get some high priced Vet that could be just OK. Then viewing the traded prospects having solid careers elsewhere. I completely get the gamble. Sabres fans suffered for so long. I'm in my 60's and attended games in their first month of existence as a kid ( Oct. 1970 ). I just don't remember ever having such a deep, young pipeline of youth. Locker room seems so together and drama free now. An ascending team. If it must be, just get it right. I''ll still probably squirm when I see who's leaving. Wonder if anyone else has the same feelings. Edited January 30, 2023 by Night Train 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contempt Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 3:19 PM, Pimlach said: Nathan Beaulieu or Casey Nelson anyone? Bob Corkum or bust. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Night Train said: What's weird for me personally is for the first time in like forever, I'm actually nervous of giving up any of our young guys in order to get some high priced Vet that could be just OK. Then viewing the traded prospects having solid careers elsewhere. I completely get the gamble. Sabres fans suffered for so long. I'm in my 60's and attended games in their first month of existence as a kid ( Oct. 1970 ). I just don't remember ever having such a deep, young pipeline of youth. Locker room seems so together and drama free now. An ascending team. If it must be, just get it right. I''ll still probably squirm when I see who's leaving. Wonder if anyone else has the same feelings. I do as well. But no decision is with out risk. Stay the course, will this existing roster make the playoffs this season or next? Make a move, will it be enough, or as you question, will it be the correct move? In the end, if they are fighting for a playoff spot come a couple weeks before dead line day, I say make the moves necessary to be in the fight to the end of the season. The question then becomes....long term acquisition, which comes with a greater price tag, or, short term acquisition, which is less cost adverse? I say both if it can be done without gutting the chemistry of the existing roster. For example, Meier rumor, who am I willing to part with for that longer term type investment? Quinn? JJP? A top end pipe line talent and draft capital? It's a tough call to be sure, but, the chance for the core of this roster to gain invaluable playoff experience is far more important to myself then retaining some asset capital, imho. It depends on Adam's and his staff, what do they deem invaluable going forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Night Train said: What's weird for me personally is for the first time in like forever, I'm actually nervous of giving up any of our young guys in order to get some high priced Vet that could be just OK. Then viewing the traded prospects having solid careers elsewhere. I completely get the gamble. Sabres fans suffered for so long. I'm in my 60's and attended games in their first month of existence as a kid ( Oct. 1970 ). I just don't remember ever having such a deep, young pipeline of youth. Locker room seems so together and drama free now. An ascending team. If it must be, just get it right. I''ll still probably squirm when I see who's leaving. Wonder if anyone else has the same feelings. A lot of what you said is why I am 100% fine if no moves are made. Is every young guy on the Sabres going to turn out to be good? probably not. Is there anyone out that that might make the team better? probably. BUT, the team is heading in the right direction now it seems...this team SHOULD be better later in the year than they are now, and likely to be better next year than they are now even with no moves. So if you make a deal, with who you bring in, who goes out, what the cost of the deal is (assets and more importantly a contract that may impact who you can keep a year or two from now)...its a roll of the dice, a gamble to not make a move, as it is to actually make a move. With that said, and with how I think the current team is taking shape, I would rather make the gamble to NOT make a change rather than take the gamble to make one. Now next year or the year after, that is a different story. Edited January 30, 2023 by mjd1001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 I don’t want any rentals. Get someone who fits into the team’s long-term vision or forget it. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porous Five Hole Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, kas23 said: I don’t want any rentals. Get someone who fits into the team’s long-term vision or forget it. Until someone gets hurt and you’re going to wish you had some veteran depth that doesn’t disrupt the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Porous Five Hole said: Until someone gets hurt and you’re going to wish you had some veteran depth that doesn’t disrupt the future. If someone gets hurt I expect the next man up to fill in. It’s a hard balance though. Playoff experience (even if it costs an asset) will undoubtedly help this team. Filling in for an injured player also gives experience in the face of adversity. I just don’t want to send assets for a month-long stint with the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 I know it’s been a long time for all of us but the Sabres are entering that period were a few things change; 1) Any long term additions need to be top tier upgrades. Six or seven of their top nine forwards should be pretty much set for the next two or three years. If Krebs continues to embrace his current role that’s another one. Assuming a couple of veteran forwards with a defensive edge to them, there will be room for two, maybe three prospects in the top thirteen/fourteen. 2) As good as Quinn and JJP have played, they demonstrate how most prospects are not ready to be main pieces on a cup contender. Therefore, any prospect that won’t be able to make an immediate impact is just a chip that may be used to acquire something that will have an immediate impact. 3) They will likely trade players that are actually good. It’s not about amassing the twenty most talented players, it’s about building a team. You need players that do the little things, players that will occasionally contribute during a grueling eighty-two game schedule and players that will understand they may sit for a deadline day acquisition once the playoff start when players are acquired at the deadline. 4) For some of you, welcome to a brave new world. Buckle up, it can be fun. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 50 minutes ago, tom webster said: I know it’s been a long time for all of us but the Sabres are entering that period were a few things change; 1) Any long term additions need to be top tier upgrades. Six or seven of their top nine forwards should be pretty much set for the next two or three years. If Krebs continues to embrace his current role that’s another one. Assuming a couple of veteran forwards with a defensive edge to them, there will be room for two, maybe three prospects in the top thirteen/fourteen. 2) As good as Quinn and JJP have played, they demonstrate how most prospects are not ready to be main pieces on a cup contender. Therefore, any prospect that won’t be able to make an immediate impact is just a chip that may be used to acquire something that will have an immediate impact. 3) They will likely trade players that are actually good. It’s not about amassing the twenty most talented players, it’s about building a team. You need players that do the little things, players that will occasionally contribute during a grueling eighty-two game schedule and players that will understand they may sit for a deadline day acquisition once the playoff start when players are acquired at the deadline. 4) For some of you, welcome to a brave new world. Buckle up, it can be fun. I think you're jumping the gun a tad; I doubt any combination of acquisitions would make us a Cup Contender which is when you start using young assets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 Shayna Goldman was on with Marty and Duffer talking about the deadline and floated the name of Brock Boeser as someone who could be acquired cheaply and boost the 2nd line. Im not into a move like that at all. Would much rather let JJ and Jack keep getting better in those roles than bring in a slight upgrade short-term. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, dudacek said: Shayna Goldman was on with Marty and Duffer talking about the deadline and floated the name of Brock Boeser as someone who could be acquired cheaply and boost the 2nd line. Im not into a move like that at all. Would much rather let JJ and Jack keep getting better in those roles than bring in a slight upgrade short-term. No interest in Boeser for what the Canucks apparently want: 1st and top prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Marvin said: No interest in Boeser for what the Canucks apparently want: 1st and top prospect. I don't want him at all at his cap hit. That is value subtracted, not added. Edited January 30, 2023 by Eleven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 12:19 PM, Pimlach said: Nathan Beaulieu or Casey Nelson anyone? I think Casey Nelson is a state trooper now lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porous Five Hole Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Norcal said: I think Casey Nelson is a state trooper now lol Even worse, he’s a realtor 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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