PromoTheRobot Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 14 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Isn't it Kyiv not Kiev? Interesting story behind that. Apparently Kiev is the Russian way of saying Kyiv. It's a way of "erasing" Ukrainianess. Which is what Russia had been trying to do for years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Interesting story behind that. Apparently Kiev is the Russian way of saying Kyiv. It's a way of "erasing" Ukrainianess. Which is what Russia had been trying to do for years. I think is a bit much. Many places have different names based on the language that is being spoken. It’s a pretty common thing worldwide. In this situation I can understand why Ukraine requested that the Ukrainian spelling be used, and Russia could certainly use the spelling as a subtle way of undermining Ukrainianness, but that is not the origin of the spelling difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, Curt said: I think is a bit much. Many places have different names based on the language that is being spoken. It’s a pretty common thing worldwide. In this situation I can understand why Ukraine requested that the Ukrainian spelling be used, and Russia could certainly use the spelling as a subtle way of undermining Ukrainianness, but that is not the origin of the spelling difference. None of this matters when Ukraine government itself asked western media to not use the Russian spelling anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: None of this matters when Ukraine government itself asked western media to not use the Russian spelling anymore Sure it matters, it’s just a different discussion. The spelling difference wasn’t a creation by Russia to eliminate Ukraine. It’s just something that exists for linguistic reasons. This explanation of origin is separate from, and has no impact on what spelling western media should use. (They should use the Ukrainian spelling because Ukraine asked them to.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 I'm obsessed with the pronunciation: KEEVE or KEEihv. Two syllables, but barely. Definitely not KEE-ehv. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 Man, Im trying to watching the Bruins/Golden Knights game from Thursday on ESPN+. What a horrible broadcast. Almost unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, SwampD said: Man, Im trying to watching the Bruins/Golden Knights game from Thursday on ESPN+. What a horrible broadcast. Almost unwatchable. Too many bucci-isms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 Umm... @spndnchz@nfreemanwhy are so many topics now locked all of a sudden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 Sabres v VGK is going to be an ESPN+ exclusive Bucci ball slobbing festival. Booo! Definitely a mute game for me. Maybe I'll lay a soundtrack over it or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 Fixed @dudacek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Norcal said: Too many bucci-isms? Sound was awful and CHelios and messier aren’t great color guys. Even levy sounded off. Bet they had their Vegas on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, SwampD said: Sound was awful and CHelios and messier aren’t great color guys. Even levy sounded off. Bet they had their Vegas on. Tough city not to tie one on in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Curt said: I think is a bit much. Many places have different names based on the language that is being spoken. It’s a pretty common thing worldwide. In this situation I can understand why Ukraine requested that the Ukrainian spelling be used, and Russia could certainly use the spelling as a subtle way of undermining Ukrainianness, but that is not the origin of the spelling difference. Background: back in the 1980's, the Cleveland Chess association had teams of Ukrainians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Georgians, Moldovans, and Armenians. The players went out of their way to let you know that they were NOT Russian in any way, shape, or form. The community centres flew their non-Soviet, non-Russian national flags. They are very proud of their national heritage. As a Sikh who sees that the Indian constitution does not recognise my religion and therefore denies part of my identity (particularly when the BJP are in power), I go just as far out of my way to say their names, cities, etc. the way they want. YMMV. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Juolevi is on waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Eleven said: Juolevi is on waivers. Wasn't he supposed to be somethin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Norcal said: Wasn't he supposed to be somethin? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Norcal said: Wasn't he supposed to be somethin? He was a top-10 pick but it appears that he isn’t good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Eleven said: Yep. 3 minutes ago, Curt said: He was a top-10 pick but it appears that he isn’t good. I remember a ton of discussion about him. He's still young, maybe he'll still turn it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Norcal said: I remember a ton of discussion about him. He's still young, maybe he'll still turn it around. I wouldn't mind the Sabres taking a flyer on a LHD at $750K / yr even though RHD is more in need right now. But I'd keep him on a very tight leash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/4/2022 at 3:09 PM, LGR4GM said: Isn't it Kyiv not Kiev? Turkey is now Turkiye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bunomatic said: Turkey is now Turkiye No really look it up. The Turkish people are going back to Turkiye. My wife has a shirt she bought in Turkey in 2002 and thats how it was spelled. Turkiye is the Ottoman. now back to the original programming. How bout them Sabres? Edited March 6, 2022 by bunomatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 That Washington Capitals / Ukraine thing from a couple of days ago is looking more and more like a hoax. On 3/4/2022 at 3:05 PM, PromoTheRobot said: 👀 Has this been debunked now? I have seen nothing of it since that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Eleven said: That Washington Capitals / Ukraine thing from a couple of days ago is looking more and more like a hoax. Has this been debunked now? I have seen nothing of it since that day. Russian intelligence disinfo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 10 hours ago, bunomatic said: No really look it up. The Turkish people are going back to Turkiye. My wife has a shirt she bought in Turkey in 2002 and thats how it was spelled. Turkiye is the Ottoman. now back to the original programming. How bout them Sabres? Turkey is English. Türkiye is Turkish. This move maked sense. That is always the way it has been in Turkey Türkiye. I have a shirt from Istanbul with Türkiye on it from 2008. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 10:18 AM, Curt said: I think is a bit much. Many places have different names based on the language that is being spoken. It’s a pretty common thing worldwide. In this situation I can understand why Ukraine requested that the Ukrainian spelling be used, and Russia could certainly use the spelling as a subtle way of undermining Ukrainianness, but that is not the origin of the spelling difference. It's not just a spelling difference. It's a language difference. Kyiv (pronounced Keev) is Ukranian. Kiev is Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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