dudacek Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Rasmus_ said: Has anyone actually seen any updates on Ullmark, or is this all conjecture at this stage? 6 hours ago, triumph_communes said: KA said they want him to be number one but he’s chosen to test FA. No doors closed Adams said in his post draft presser that McCabe will test FA, but said no such thing about Ullmark, rather he said they are still talking and implied that he hopes to sign him before free agency. Did you hear him say something different elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Can we delete or at least close this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 26, 2021 Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 Chad is reporting that He is hearing that the deal is close to being done with Ullmark. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 hours ago, inkman said: Can we delete or at least close this thread? No see below 36 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Chad is reporting that He is hearing that the deal is close to being done with Ullmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 Tom really believes this too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Tom really believes this too So does Eklund 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 52 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I'm sure there's a backup plan if he's not signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 I wonder if 3 years 5 Million AAV gets it done 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I wonder if 3 years 5 Million AAV gets it done That would make sense. Money isn't an issue here, it shows faith in Linus and bridges the team until UPL is ready. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 UPL likely won't be ready to be a starter in 3 years, he isn't even a part timer yet. It's more likely he's never a starter than is, actually. One from the UPL/Portillo/Levi combination? Now we are talking better odds. But the Sabres should definitely look for goalies as if those guys aren't a factor, at least if they are trying to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 Per Seravelli , Linus asking for 6 years at 6 million. That’s way too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, freester said: Per Seravelli , Linus asking for 6 years at 6 million. That’s way too much. Let him walk now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, freester said: Per Seravelli , Linus asking for 6 years at 6 million. That’s way too much. The $, or the term? We are talking about 3 @ $5 probably getting it done, so I assume you mean the term is too much. I hate to assume, so what do you think is too much? I don't really like the 6 years, but the $6 M is not outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, freester said: Per Seravelli , Linus asking for 6 years at 6 million. That’s way too much. What the heck is he smoking? Its one thing to ask for 5 mil but 6x6mil is so steep I doubt many teams would even look at him at that ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Thorny said: UPL likely won't be ready to be a starter in 3 years, he isn't even a part timer yet. It's more likely he's never a starter than is, actually. One from the UPL/Portillo/Levi combination? Now we are talking better odds. But the Sabres should definitely look for goalies as if those guys aren't a factor, at least if they are trying to win Did you even look at UIlmark's or UPL numbers before this post? UPL is almost on the exact trajectory as Ullmark completed to get to the NHL. UPL's 21 year old season is a little more fractured because COVID, but he is tracking just like Ullmark. Ullmark played in the AHL for most of 3 seasons at 21 - 3.41 gaa and .902 save % at 22 - 2.87 gaa and .909 save % at 23 - 2.44 gaa and .922 save % UPL actually made the AHL at 20, and last season split his time in Roch and the SM-Ligga at 20 - 3.15 and .874 at 21 (SM-Liiga) 2.52 & .908, AHL - 3.60 & .888 at 22 ??? He'll be the starter in Rochester this season and if continues to progress, he'll be in Buffalo at age 24, 2 more seasons from now, likely serving as Ullmark's backup. Edited July 27, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: What the heck is he smoking? Its one thing to ask for 5 mil but 6x6mil is so steep I doubt many teams would even look at him at that ask. He knows that no ufa wants to come to Buffalo so he’s charging a premium to return to the dumpster fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Did you even look at UIlmark's or UPL numbers before this post? UPL is almost on the exact trajectory as Ullmark completed to get to the NHL. UPL's 21 year old season is a little more fractured because COVID, but he is tracking just like Ullmark. Ullmark played in the AHL for most of 3 seasons at 21 - 3.41 gaa and .902 save % at 22 - 2.87 gaa and .909 save % at 23 - 2.44 gaa and .922 save % UPL actually made the AHL at 20, and last season split his time in Roch and the SM-Ligga at 20 - 3.15 and .874 at 21 (SM-Liiga) 2.52 & .908, AHL - 3.60 & .888 at 22 ??? He'll be the starter in Rochester this season and if continues to progress, he'll be in Buffalo at age 24, 2 more seasons from now, likely serving as Ullmark's backup. You like to operate by assuming the best possible trajectory of prospects. I don't. Past statistics don't back that up. I would argue Adams agrees with me - if he was penciling in UPL as the starter in 3 years he probably doesn't make Levi the prospect centerpiece of the Reinhart deal. I don't really get the "did you even look" wording, for the record. Defensive for no reason, I didn't even quote your post. Edited July 27, 2021 by Thorny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcal Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) Ullmark has zero worries besides running out of gas on his boat. https://www.instagram.com/p/CR1RA2Iplyj/?utm_medium=copy_link Edited July 27, 2021 by Norcal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, freester said: Per Seravelli , Linus asking for 6 years at 6 million. That’s way too much. Pay Linus the money!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 Do people think the most likely result is that UPL becomes the starter in 3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 If he wants 6x6mil I'd offer 4x5mil or 3x6mil at max. It reduces the budget on his backup but should be ok seeing as we are not exactly hung up at the cap ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 6x6 is too much for Ullmark. IMO, That kinda money and term is for top 15 proven starters. I just don’t view Ullmark in that world …. Yet. And have my doubts he’ll ever be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: Do people think the most likely result is that UPL becomes the starter in 3 years? That's we've been told to believe. All goalie transactions over the past four years and the next two years were to enable the development, arrival, and inevitable contender-caliber goaltending provided by UPL. Because if he didn't do it, who else was supposed to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just now, IKnowPhysics said: That's we've been told to believe. All goalie transactions over the past four years and the next two years were to enable the development, arrival, and inevitable contender-caliber goaltending provided by UPL. Because if he didn't do it, who else was supposed to? Now there is a pool of 3. Goalies don't develop on straight trajectories, until they are literally starting, you don't know if it'll ever happen. They are notoriously difficult to project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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